New realm in the middle of Tara and CE

[Radigand]

I'm musing in my mind a possibility of a new realm created around duchies of Foda, Skalk and Nida. Once the war with Darka and BoM is over (if it's over), the new politics of the north will be more intriguing compared to the three behemoth federation that Eston, Darka and Barony is. Why not to add some flavour to the centre of Atamara map by creating a new realm with its own politics? CE/Tara bloc is too comfortable, as they can play politics "back-to-back", without a fear of being stabbed. Adding a new state entity would surely add more flavour to the centre/south of Atamara. Also, adding a physical separation between CE and Tara would perhaps allow more interesting relations between long allies than forever federated allies.

What do Cagilans and Tarans think about this OOC?

[Dante Silverfire]

Now, I'm not in Tara or CE, but here are my thoughts:

OOC Level: Stuff like this in general shouldn't be planned on an OOC level. Especially when so far the continent isn't stagnated or anything. This can all be handled IC.

IC Level: This will never happen IC. Who would make it? The dukes? Why should they inherently make themselves weaker without any assurances to a strong ally? They'd have to have external assurances, or they risk too much.

[Perth]

First, I agree with Silverfire on the OOC/IC planning in stuff.


That said, I don't think this would add the dynamism that you hope it would. This new realm would ultimately just end up at the mercy of CE/Tara and would just end up another member of the hegemonic Bloc because they would be the most vulnerable of all nations.

[Vellos]

First, I agree with Silverfire on the OOC/IC planning in stuff.


That said, I don't think this would add the dynamism that you hope it would. This new realm would ultimately just end up at the mercy of CE/Tara and would just end up another member of the hegemonic Bloc because they would be the most vulnerable of all nations.

+1

It would improve the CE/Tara tax efficiency too. Maybe harder to coordinate, but the Cagilan bloc seems good and putting loyal followers and good coordinators in their offshoots.

[Geronus]

I'm musing in my mind a possibility of a new realm created around duchies of Foda, Skalk and Nida. Once the war with Darka and BoM is over (if it's over), the new politics of the north will be more intriguing compared to the three behemoth federation that Eston, Darka and Barony is. Why not to add some flavour to the centre of Atamara map by creating a new realm with its own politics? CE/Tara bloc is too comfortable, as they can play politics "back-to-back", without a fear of being stabbed. Adding a new state entity would surely add more flavour to the centre/south of Atamara. Also, adding a physical separation between CE and Tara would perhaps allow more interesting relations between long allies than forever federated allies.

What do Cagilans and Tarans think about this OOC?

If we're speculating about things that will never happen, why not go further and split CE down the middle, break Tara into three pieces and split Suville in two? That sounds like way more fun. Then we can make them all fight.

[Radigand]

If we're speculating about things that will never happen, why not go further and split CE down the middle, break Tara into three pieces and split Suville in two? That sounds like way more fun. Then we can make them all fight.

Strombrab happened, Rieleston happened, ML happened, Lyoness happened, the list goes on

[Gustav Kuriga]

"Oh noes, they started talking about it ooc, therefore the entirety of their planning must be ooc."

God, hearing that excuse is tiring.

[Indirik]

Radigand: you just named off a whole bunch of realms that the Empire forced to happen, or supported to happen *out of their enemies land*.

While I applaud your thinking, if you want to do it and actually accomplish something useful, the time was about a year ago. Although, doing it even now might still do something. If you wait til the war is over, all you're doing is putting on the red shirt.

[Penchant]

Strombrab happened, Rieleston happened, ML happened, Lyoness happened, the list goes on

CE colony in Carelia's lands, secession from Eston because they all was were a bunch of butts supporting old ways only, civil war between MI and ML resulting in MI's lands becoming a part of the CE co, and forced colony by CE. Those are all things caused in some way by CE, that benefits CE not hurts.

[Geronus]

Strombrab happened, Rieleston happened, ML happened, Lyoness happened, the list goes on

Are you implying that your idea has a realistic chance of happening in the near future? Nothing's impossible. That said, most things are unlikely.

Look, speculate if you want to, that's partially what the forum is for after all. As long as we are though, why not think bigger? I'd love to see most of Atamara busted up into tiny pieces, not just part of Tara. I deeply despise this island's entrenched, antediluvian politics. The whole damn thing should be sunk.

There is no other island that could use an Invasion more. I would love to see Tom introduce the summoning scrolls that he implemented on BT here. I bet they'd be used on Atamara before they're used on BT. It's the perfect time for them. There's at least two realms desperate enough to use them right now, and several more who are probably ruthless enough to.

[Zadar]

We don't need any new realms between Ce and Tara. We could use one more in the North though..

[GoldPanda]

+1

Or two, or three...

[Chenier]

We don't need any new realms between Ce and Tara. We could use one more in the North though..

Save the endangered species, fund Ithilian defense!

[Geronus]

We don't need any new realms between Ce and Tara. We could use one more in the North though..

We need new realms everywhere.

[Zadar]

Ah, now we need to get rid off Coria, anyone interested to buy it for very low price ?