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Phoenix Empire
« Topic Start: February 19, 2013, 08:15:46 AM »
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Re: Phoenix Empire
« Reply #1: February 19, 2013, 11:53:09 AM »
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Re: Phoenix Empire
« Reply #2: February 19, 2013, 11:55:44 AM »
From an outsider perspective, I have to say that this looks like the best possible response to the angst about prolonged peace expressed in the "The Future of Atamara (Post-Great Atamaran War)". Congrats!
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Re: Phoenix Empire
« Reply #3: February 19, 2013, 12:46:28 PM »
Main issue is that as it's put in the op, there are pretty much no reasons to any realm to join it: in order to protect every realm sovereignity Coria seems to be asking them to first renounce it by subsideing to the Corian rule

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Re: Phoenix Empire
« Reply #4: February 19, 2013, 01:23:23 PM »
Main issue is that as it's put in the op, there are pretty much no reasons to any realm to join it: in order to protect every realm sovereignity Coria seems to be asking them to first renounce it by subsideing to the Corian rule

Which is not different from "The" other Empire...

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Re: Phoenix Empire
« Reply #5: February 19, 2013, 02:16:08 PM »
You misspelled "Princess".  ;)
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Re: Phoenix Empire
« Reply #6: February 19, 2013, 03:33:54 PM »
I appriciate any Duke/Duchess who does something other than trying to sit on the income forever and ever (then again I think there should be a fame point for every hostile seccession), but I have to say I can not see this happening. Way too fast a movement without apparently even securing the change to monarchy first, and when the monarch is asking the Queen of Carelia to speak on his behalf to Strombran and Suville to join in alliance, well..

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Re: Phoenix Empire
« Reply #7: February 19, 2013, 04:22:21 PM »
Yeah I think nothing will come of this.

It's hard to understand what the benefit of it is.
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Re: Phoenix Empire
« Reply #8: February 19, 2013, 04:48:42 PM »
I can think many good things coming from this :D
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Re: Phoenix Empire
« Reply #9: February 19, 2013, 04:51:05 PM »
Yeah I think nothing will come of this.

It's hard to understand what the benefit of it is.

Depends who you ask. If Darka joins it, will Coria suddenly side against CE/Tara? Immense benefit for Darka right there. The remnants of Eston? If they join they could probably wipe their asses with the treaty CE forced on them.

Caergoth and Suville join? Change sides in the war as a result? Heck, just might make things interesting again. With the charter it's a heck of a lot better than what CE seems to be offering everyone.
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Re: Phoenix Empire
« Reply #10: February 19, 2013, 04:58:13 PM »
I think what a lot of people fail to grasp is the ability to unite a diverse group of realms that this empire brings to the table. They need not always be friends and allies, but they can unite behind a common cause. After uniting behind a single cause they can unite behind other issues.

I am confident that the Phoenix Empire will be a success as long as Coria remains with full strength behind it. The question is, whether Merlin has the capability to pull together his realm behind his dramatic and fast changes to realm policies. If he can do that, then he'll be able to easily operate as Princeps of the Phoenix Empire.
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Re: Phoenix Empire
« Reply #11: February 19, 2013, 05:38:01 PM »
I think your success will depend on who else you can bring to the table, and how effectively you can defend the members.
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Re: Phoenix Empire
« Reply #12: February 19, 2013, 05:48:41 PM »
I think your success will depend on who else you can bring to the table, and how effectively you can defend the members.

Which, considering lots of people still hate the Empire and Coria has probably one of the three best military hierarchies on Atamara, they could be wildly successful

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Re: Phoenix Empire
« Reply #13: February 19, 2013, 06:04:03 PM »
That is possible. Coria hasn't been tested in battle in quite a while, and never on its own. If they have to face down CE/Tara/Tal, it could be quite interesting. At that point it will also depend on who they get to join them.
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Re: Phoenix Empire
« Reply #14: February 19, 2013, 06:06:36 PM »
That is possible. Coria hasn't been tested in battle in quite a while, and never on its own. If they have to face down CE/Tara/Tal, it could be quite interesting. At that point it will also depend on who they get to join them.

Yes, but as previously mentioned, if they can rally the remains of the North, including Darka and the Barony, things could get interesting. Should they bring in the realms shattered by this war, as well, they can do quite well.

But yes. There is a long way to go before this Empire becomes... Well, an Empire.