Company of the Black Sun

[Lorgan]

Dwilight(BM?)'s first mercenary company has been founded in Outer Giask.

Captain General Kamron Lorganson is now scouring the continent for warriors who wish naught but battles, gold and the finer things in life.

Abandon your life of boredom and responsibilities for one of adventure and perpetual war now and get a barrel of Dragon's Spit for FREE upon signing your contract!

[Anaris]

So...you're angling to get force-deported, then, are you?

Mercenaries led by high nobles are not SMA. This is absolutely, 100% inappropriate for Dwilight.

Which I'm reasonably sure I've told you before.

[Gustav Kuriga]

So...you're angling to get force-deported, then, are you?

Mercenaries led by high nobles are not SMA. This is absolutely, 100% inappropriate for Dwilight.

Which I'm reasonably sure I've told you before.

The first well organised mercenaries in Italy were the Ventura Companies of Duke Werner von Urslingen and Count Konrad von Landau. Werner's company differed from other mercenary companies because its code of military justice imposed discipline and an equal division of the contract's income.

Tell that to the Italians.

[Indirik]

The first well organised mercenaries in Italy were the Ventura Companies of Duke Werner von Urslingen and Count Konrad von Landau.

That dude was born after 1300, which puts him outside BattleMaster's target time frame of 700-1300.

[Gustav Kuriga]

would you consider the hundred years war a medieval conflict?

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So...you're angling to get force-deported, then, are you?

Mercenaries led by high nobles are not SMA. This is absolutely, 100% inappropriate for Dwilight.

Which I'm reasonably sure I've told you before.

Why on earth would this be an SMA violation?

[Indirik]

would you consider the hundred years war a medieval conflict?

My opinion as to whether or not something is "medieval" is irrelevant. I'm no medieval scholar or authority. But if it didn't happen during the period of approximately 700-1300, you shouldn't use it as justification for things that are appropriate for Dwilight. (That time frame is somewhere on the wiki...) There are, obviously, exceptions to all rules. But that time period is a good guideline to what can and cannot be considered as "justifiable" for SMA.

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SMA has absolutely nothing to do with historical accuracy. It has to do with atmosphere, people.

Can any of you point to me anything in the guidelines that would be violated by this? Because I've been looking through them for the last twenty minutes and still haven't found anything.

[Indirik]

I'm not trying to claim it is acceptable or not. I'm just commenting about the time period used for examples.

As for the mercenary thing, I'm fairly certain that Tom has said in the past that the noble-led mercenary thing is not acceptable, and he has vetoed all attempts to allow such a thing to be easier or officially implemented. There's no way I'm going to be able to find a quote, so I'm going to stay out of the debate on this topic.

[Anaris]

I'm not trying to claim it is acceptable or not. I'm just commenting about the time period used for examples.

As for the mercenary thing, I'm fairly certain that Tom has said in the past that the noble-led mercenary thing is not acceptable, and he has vetoed all attempts to allow such a thing to be easier or officially implemented. There's no way I'm going to be able to find a quote, so I'm going to stay out of the debate on this topic.

I would note that this can be seen in the fact that a mercenary army that's part of a realm will have a very hard time actually operating as a mercenary army without explicit diplomatic support from the realm—in other words, if you want to be at war with a realm that you've been hired to fight, you need your realm to declare war on them.

And if you've been hired to fight a realm that's an ally of an ally...what are you going to do?

(And that's not even considering the other side—how will you fight alongside someone you've been hired to defend without your realm allying with them?)

[Zakilevo]

I would note that this can be seen in the fact that a mercenary army that's part of a realm will have a very hard time actually operating as a mercenary army without explicit diplomatic support from the realm—in other words, if you want to be at war with a realm that you've been hired to fight, you need your realm to declare war on them.

And if you've been hired to fight a realm that's an ally of an ally...what are you going to do?

(And that's not even considering the other side—how will you fight alongside someone you've been hired to defend without your realm allying with them?)

I believe Lorgan's idea is to join a realm that hired his mercs which is very different from what Darka did.

[NoblesseChevaleresque]

Can I hire you as more fodder for the Orvandeaux Battailon Etrangere? We like our foreigner soldiers.

[Lychaon]

Do you like challenges? Join Barca to create the "Legion for Barcan Liberation" to help us to fight for freedom against the tyrannical Aurvandilians!  :P

[Bjarnson]

Whats your prices?

[Penchant]

Whats your prices?

That is the proper response.