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Re: Gold/Food re-balance
« Reply #30: April 16, 2013, 03:43:20 AM »
+1 only city lord happy, townsland become worse and rural loss gold even they sold their food..  This not fun.

Only Major City Lords really gain any significant benefit from this change I think, at the current numbers displayed. It seems like many of the small sized cities like Gaston, Via pretty much loss a good amount of gold and the ones that didn't lose some didn't really gain much either.

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Re: Gold/Food re-balance
« Reply #31: April 16, 2013, 04:01:44 AM »
Not sure if this is intended, but I can see the rebalance preview on stable (FEI) as well for the region I'm in.
Not intended, but no harm done, really. Anaris says this is due to a minor bug that only happens if you get to region details by clicking the link at the bottom of the page, and you happen to be in the region of which you are a lord.


Port Raviel and Port Nebel used to be almost identical, and now Port Nebel is clearly the better city. Any idea how this could be? They are both about the same size, same weather, both coastal, both only adjacent to one townsland by land and 3 cities by sea routes, both with about the same starting gold and food values.
It's not just whether or not something has a coast line. Length of coastline and percentage of coastline are also factors. Presence of sea routes is irrelevant, as are the number and type of surrounding regions. Also, existing food/gold values are not used during the determination of the new values in any way. Those old values were essentially completely arbitrary, and are ignored.

Original discussions had it such that pop density had a large influence. Of course this was weeks and weeks before the final version.
Pop density counts. Especially once you start getting into the really high pop density cities.
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Re: Gold/Food re-balance
« Reply #32: April 16, 2013, 04:12:18 AM »
Density should be about the same for both, but of course it could just be the random factor.

The variation from noise is not significant. Nebel's advantage comes from its coastline.
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Re: Gold/Food re-balance
« Reply #33: April 16, 2013, 04:20:58 AM »
When will stable islands be re-balanced?

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« Reply #34: April 16, 2013, 04:31:03 AM »
Oh, don't mind us Farronites. We'll support this re-balance all the way! ^_^

Seriously though, I think we came out smelling like roses after this. Golden Farrow makes a ton more gold, a ton more food, our regions make more food. Omnomnomnom.

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Re: Gold/Food re-balance
« Reply #35: April 16, 2013, 04:45:13 AM »
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Not intended, but no harm done, really. Anaris says this is due to a minor bug that only happens if you get to region details by clicking the link at the bottom of the page, and you happen to be in the region of which you are a lord.

It's not a region I'm a lord of - it's just the region I'm in.

Is stable being rebalanced at the same time (since the numbers seem to be there) or later?

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Re: Gold/Food re-balance
« Reply #36: April 16, 2013, 04:58:00 AM »
Is stable being rebalanced at the same time (since the numbers seem to be there) or later?
The calculations have been run on all islands, so they could theoretically all be applied at any time. I'm not sure what the plans are as far as implementation goes.

This stuff will all be tested to death on the dev server prior to implementing, so that nothing gets screwed up. But even so... Murphy screws up in inventive ways.
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Re: Gold/Food re-balance
« Reply #37: April 16, 2013, 05:12:28 AM »
Not intended, but no harm done, really. Anaris says this is due to a minor bug that only happens if you get to region details by clicking the link at the bottom of the page, and you happen to be in the region of which you are a lord.

You can actually see the changes for any region on stable by going to the region info page and changing "stable" to "testing" in the address bar.

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« Reply #38: April 16, 2013, 05:18:00 AM »
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Re: Gold/Food re-balance
« Reply #39: April 16, 2013, 05:19:05 AM »
Beluaterra re-balance strangeness:
Rines - It makes 1,348 gold more than the next largest city?  :o
Wudenkin - Population and region size are more than Agyr but it makes 177 less gold under the new system?
Gethsemene & Fronepu - almost the same in population & region size but Gethsemene would have 411 gold more ?

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Re: Gold/Food re-balance
« Reply #40: April 16, 2013, 05:25:25 AM »
Rines was already the richest City on the Continent, now it also got the largest boost. It has become even bigger of a status now, though the food rebalance will not make things easier.

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Re: Gold/Food re-balance
« Reply #41: April 16, 2013, 05:36:26 AM »
Having 5,500 more people & a smaller region size than either Wudenkin (2nd largest) or Agyr (3rd) shouldn't lead to that big of overwhelming dominance in gold production.

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Re: Gold/Food re-balance
« Reply #42: April 16, 2013, 05:40:50 AM »
Keep in mind Rines is not yet at full production. Rines maximum population is IIRC at 90000. That's 30000 more peasants then Wudenkin.

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« Reply #43: April 16, 2013, 05:44:00 AM »
From what everyone is saying, it seems the new re-balance is undoing what the last re-balance did.

Did this re-balance increase gold/food for other region types other than city?

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Re: Gold/Food re-balance
« Reply #44: April 16, 2013, 05:46:50 AM »
Keep in mind Rines is not yet at full production. Rines maximum population is IIRC at 90000. That's 30000 more peasants then Wudenkin.

90,000? is the wiki page wrong?