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Fame!

Started by DoctorHarte, May 05, 2011, 08:58:56 AM

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Revan

Quote from: Cren on June 05, 2012, 06:37:14 PM
No fame point even after turn change. Do I need to wait more?

You might need to wait for the morning turn for that.

Cren

No sign of it even after full turn change. Guess the unknown fame point I was talking about was this one only.
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Iltaran

Quote from: JPierreD on June 05, 2012, 07:10:02 PM
I don't know if we are talking about the same FP, but I got one which I'm pretty sure was for my name appearing in a battle global message, for being spotted with a unique item in it. I assume we are for the name would also appear for leading an army, and for I have led an army as a vice-marshal in a minor battle (those that are not sent to the entire continent), and I did not get a FP for that.

Hmmm, thats interesting. I had thought the FP was for leading an army, but it could well be for appearing in a global battle message. Are you sure the FP you got wasn't the "own a unique item" one?
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Quote from: Iltaran on June 06, 2012, 11:06:01 AM
Hmmm, thats interesting. I had thought the FP was for leading an army, but it could well be for appearing in a global battle message. Are you sure the FP you got wasn't the "own a unique item" one?

I had got that a long time before, for purchasing a Scroll. And I had gotten the item more than a week before that battle, so it would be unlikely that was the reason.
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Revan

Quote from: Cren on June 06, 2012, 06:35:39 AM
No sign of it even after full turn change. Guess the unknown fame point I was talking about was this one only.

I reckon the trading fame point has perhaps been altered or undone by recent changes to the game then. It definitely worked in the past.

Quote from: egamma on May 25, 2012, 09:31:33 PM
http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Fame_Box
Only one Fame point has not yet been collected - all other Fame points have been earned by at least one, usually many. This undiscovered Fame point can be earned in battle.

Wow, the Fame box/Fame pages are a little dated. Apparently that message about a fame point not yet being collected has been on the wiki five years! As such, I wonder if I might have gotten this undiscovered fame point that comes in battle. But bear with me, we're going back a while!

I got a fame point immediately after winning a battle in Bara'Khur three years ago. It was actually part of a rebellion against my rule. Including me there were three loyalists against maybe 6-8 rebels. We were massively outnumbered in both nobles, CS and men. My two comrades were forced from the field quite quickly, but I personally led well in excess of 100 Infantry and even though I was vastly outnumbered, I was facing mainly Archers in the windiest conditions possible. I proceeded to absolutely smash the rebels to bits singlehandedly, when, if I'd been against Infantry, say, I'd probably already be on the way to exile!

I think the unknown/undiscovered fame point has something to do with winning a victory in against-all-odds, truly dire circumstances. That, or it is having a decisive personal influence on the course of a battle. I carried the whole thing and was personally culpable for most, if not all, opposition units being routed or retreating from the field. I also personally inflicted the vast majority of casualties. The hits my unit racked up were unseemly. After the battle I had improved my skill and gotten a bit of a silly honour/prestige gain. I really wish I'd made a point of saving the battle report. I remember being absurdly amused by just how domineering a victory it was under the circumstances.

Of course, this is slightly complicated by the fact that I was leading an army I personally sponsored at the time. However, the battle wasn't big enough to get a huge battle report and, given that I had been leading armies and sponsoring them from the moment the new army system was introduced, I presume I got the army specific point out of the way a long, long time before the events of this rebellion.

Cren

Quote from: Revan on June 06, 2012, 01:00:49 PM

I think the unknown/undiscovered fame point has something to do with winning a victory in against-all-odds, truly dire circumstances. That, or it is having a decisive personal influence on the course of a battle. I carried the whole thing and was personally culpable for most, if not all, opposition units being routed or retreating from the field. I also personally inflicted the vast majority of casualties. The hits my unit racked up were unseemly.


I too have suspected something like that. My char's 32 men archer unit was all alone against 1200 CS of undead. Still she won, but got out with wounds and 5 standing men.
Just stay alive and kicking, raise your voice when its needed. Through reason you can show the mistakes of others, something violence can't do.

I don't break rules, I bend them- a lot.

Cren

Updates! The trading fame point can even be gained by selling food to a hungry city.

And its been almost 2 days but still haven't got the Region Lord FP.
Just stay alive and kicking, raise your voice when its needed. Through reason you can show the mistakes of others, something violence can't do.

I don't break rules, I bend them- a lot.

egamma

Quote from: Cren on June 13, 2012, 01:05:30 PM
And its been almost 2 days but still haven't got the Region Lord FP.

were you elected or appointed?

Cren

Appointed by the Duke
Just stay alive and kicking, raise your voice when its needed. Through reason you can show the mistakes of others, something violence can't do.

I don't break rules, I bend them- a lot.

Cren

Whoa, getting appointed doesn't give FP??!
Just stay alive and kicking, raise your voice when its needed. Through reason you can show the mistakes of others, something violence can't do.

I don't break rules, I bend them- a lot.

Indirik

As long as you are not appointed by a family member (i.e. another of your own characters) you should get fame for it. If not, then it is a bug.
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Cren

#56
I posted the bug report
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http://bugs.battlemaster.org/view.php?id=7028

13 days ago. Still nobody has taken a look.
Just stay alive and kicking, raise your voice when its needed. Through reason you can show the mistakes of others, something violence can't do.

I don't break rules, I bend them- a lot.

Foundation

I checked a while ago, but as with anything related to fame, I hesitate to answer.  How are you sure you got each of what you mentioned?  I get the objective sums, but did the other two you claimed are vague and not very well understood by the community/wiki.
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Cren

Well, my defence is that those 6 points were before my character was appointed a lord.
Just stay alive and kicking, raise your voice when its needed. Through reason you can show the mistakes of others, something violence can't do.

I don't break rules, I bend them- a lot.

Foundation

Everything is working as designed, nothing has changed.  There is no bug.  That's all I will say, and I won't be answering any further questions about fame as it's one of the few aspects of the game where the mechanics are designed to be largely unknown.
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