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Advanced Mentoring and History
« Topic Start: May 08, 2011, 04:42:44 AM »
(To those I mentioned this to before, sorry it took so long but I got slammed with a bunch of crises with a number of characters and couldn't convince myself to start this up before now.)

One thing I've noticed for years in this game is that those who know how to get positions get them consistently, across the game, with whatever character.  And, as I got more experienced, I noticed this happening to me...And started figuring out the reasons why.  First reason: You get to know people, and the more people you know the better your chances of getting power.  Second reason: Once you've proved you're capable, everyone can find out pretty easily and will trust that you won't cause the capital to starve or the like.  And third reason: The ways to get power and influence tend to be the same across the game, within certain parameters.

If you're lucky, you get a good Mentor or someone to act as one to help you figure this out.  If you hang out on IRC you could find people to help too.

But, a lot of people don't want to spend time hanging around on IRC, and they don't get lucky on Mentors.  So, this thread is (I hope) one additional way to get help.

This is where you go when you want to find someone to help you figure out how to organize a successful secession.  This is where you go when you have no idea why everyone's attacking your realm because of some sneak attack conducted by a Ruler of your realm that you've never even heard of.  This is where you go when you need help at the top ends of Battlemaster play.

And, possibly, you can find someone to IC hook up and take you on as a protege.

Now, besides myself, the players of several other families have agreed to help answer questions and possibly write up histories and guides: Vellos, Anaris, Quasath, Indirik, Kindon, and a number of others who agreed to help on a provisional basis.  Several of the Top 20 fame list, families with 30+ fame, people who know politics and history on Atamara, Dwilight, the Far East, Beluaterra, and the EC in intimate detail (possibly the Colonies as well, but I'm really not sure).

Anyone who wants to help is of course welcome, I just listed those names to make an impression  ;)

So, please spread the word. 

P.s. This thread is all OOC, of course, but I've considered trying to start some sort of IC organization to mimic it, just not sure how to go about it.

Index of Advanced Mentoring and History threads:

How to gain influence: http://forum.battlemaster.org/index.php/topic,517.0.html
How to be a lord: http://forum.battlemaster.org/index.php/topic,524.0.html
How to be a duke: http://forum.battlemaster.org/index.php/topic,525.0.html
How to be a banker: http://forum.battlemaster.org/index.php/topic,526.0.html
How to be a general: http://forum.battlemaster.org/index.php/topic,527.0.html
How to be a judge: http://forum.battlemaster.org/index.php/topic,529.0.html
How to be a ruler: http://forum.battlemaster.org/index.php/topic,528.0.html
« Last Edit: May 09, 2011, 08:19:09 PM by Bedwyr »
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Re: Advanced Mentoring and History
« Reply #1: May 08, 2011, 06:05:00 PM »
Perhaps we could create specific threads for those individuals or topics devoted to a specific "area?"  I'm thinking of megaposts about banking, battle, or whatever. 

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Re: Advanced Mentoring and History
« Reply #2: May 08, 2011, 06:08:48 PM »
Perhaps we could create specific threads for those individuals or topics devoted to a specific "area?"  I'm thinking of megaposts about banking, battle, or whatever.

Perhaps there could even be a sub-forum for this specialist knowledge? Or do you think the "Helpline" already fulfills this functions adequately.
« Last Edit: May 08, 2011, 06:10:30 PM by Bael »

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Re: Advanced Mentoring and History
« Reply #3: May 08, 2011, 06:24:18 PM »
If enough interest gets developed in this, I can probably talk Tom into making a subforum, but until then let's just use the Helpline.
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Re: Advanced Mentoring and History
« Reply #4: May 08, 2011, 09:35:24 PM »
Or separate threads could just be made with titles like: "Advanced Mentoring and History: Gaining Realm Influence by Anaris" or some such thing.
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Re: Advanced Mentoring and History
« Reply #5: May 09, 2011, 03:04:27 AM »
Or separate threads could just be made with titles like: "Advanced Mentoring and History: Gaining Realm Influence by Anaris" or some such thing.

Probably a good plan, I'll split the topic and leave this thread for meta discussions on what topics need to be started.
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Re: Advanced Mentoring and History
« Reply #6: May 09, 2011, 04:30:49 AM »
You should include an index of topics in this thread.
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Re: Advanced Mentoring and History
« Reply #7: May 09, 2011, 07:22:19 AM »
Good idea, I'll keep it in the first post.
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« Reply #8: May 09, 2011, 07:27:22 AM »
Okay, so, what would people like to see?  Requests make it easier, as directed thinking is always easier for me than global thinking  :D
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« Reply #9: May 09, 2011, 02:48:49 PM »
I have read some good information on how to secure positions of power. I would be interested in information on what to do once you have managed to secure position X. Perhaps a guide on running a region, running a duchy, successful marshaling, being the banker, being the general, being the judge and being the ruler.

I know that I was lost the first time I was appointed to a regional lordship and I must honestly confess that region trade settings are still a tad bit mysterious. Though I am not sure this qualifies as Advanced Mentoring material!

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« Reply #10: May 09, 2011, 07:51:40 PM »
I'll write something on trade systems, as I know that confuses many players.
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Re: Advanced Mentoring and History
« Reply #11: May 09, 2011, 07:57:53 PM »
I'll write something on trade systems, as I know that confuses many players.

Thank heavens, I'd love to read it.  The food system confuses me, and I can look at the frakking codebase.  And Pelgart, I was going to agree that it might not be Advanced Mentoring because it might be too advanced, heh.  Thank Vellos for help there!

I'll start up threads for each of the positions and people who have information can add to them.
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« Reply #12: May 09, 2011, 08:02:30 PM »
The food system confuses me, and I can look at the frakking codebase.

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« Reply #13: May 09, 2011, 09:28:15 PM »
Interestingly, I find the food system extremely intuitive and easy to understand.

Probably because I'm an economics major with an emphasis in trade finance.
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Re: Advanced Mentoring and History
« Reply #14: May 10, 2011, 04:04:21 PM »
Please use this thread to further the already existing Advanced Mentoring threads.

Concerns should be directed here: http://forum.battlemaster.org/index.php/topic,533.0.html.

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