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Re: Noble density per realm - Dwilight
« Reply #75: May 12, 2014, 12:25:34 AM »
So basically Beluaterra has actually seen a large increase in the number of nobles. I think it is characters leaving the other, glacier/invasion-ridden continents, for one that is much less so.

How do you figure that? I count a net gain of an amazing 1 noble from Feb 10th to Feb 24th.
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Re: Noble density per realm - Dwilight
« Reply #76: May 12, 2014, 01:33:32 AM »
How do you figure that? I count a net gain of an amazing 1 noble from Feb 10th to Feb 24th.
+9 more from 24 Feb. until now. Dwilight has had a net loss of 20 nobles, although the number of actual chars who immigrated, died, paused, quit or retired is much higher.

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Re: Noble density per realm - Dwilight
« Reply #77: May 12, 2014, 03:53:19 PM »
How do you figure that? I count a net gain of an amazing 1 noble from Feb 10th to Feb 24th.

Because the game in general is shrinking, Chenier. So while it may not be growing, per se, it is a much better noble population growth rate than the other continents.

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Re: Noble density per realm - Dwilight
« Reply #78: May 12, 2014, 08:58:16 PM »
Because the game in general is shrinking, Chenier. So while it may not be growing, per se, it is a much better noble population growth rate than the other continents.
You are just trying to be right. You said a large increase in nobles not a better noble population growth. I haven't looked at the stats to actually confirm or deny it, but your statement is just trying to change what you already said to make yourself look right.
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Re: Noble density per realm - Dwilight
« Reply #79: May 12, 2014, 09:12:54 PM »
You are just trying to be right. You said a large increase in nobles not a better noble population growth. I haven't looked at the stats to actually confirm or deny it, but your statement is just trying to change what you already said to make yourself look right.

Actually I didn't read the exact connotation of my last post when I made my next one, so you're just looking a bit too far into it for something wrong. Besides, the population of nobles HAS increased, which is more than you can say about the other islands, so my point still stands.

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Re: Noble density per realm - Dwilight
« Reply #80: May 12, 2014, 09:15:02 PM »
This can all be explained by one simple rule: BT > all.

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Re: Noble density per realm - Dwilight
« Reply #81: May 13, 2014, 01:35:37 AM »
Changes of the last 30 days (Apr.12 - May11):


Dwilight: -26
East Continent: +21
Atamara: -4
Beluaterra: +9
Colonies: +3
Far East: -22
Total: -19

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Re: Noble density per realm - Dwilight
« Reply #82: May 13, 2014, 03:38:38 AM »
Pretty much what I figured. I feel that Atamara might see a sudden drop off soon, but not immediately. The Darka players are for the most part very enduring players, able to take setbacks well.

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Re: Noble density per realm - Dwilight
« Reply #83: July 07, 2014, 03:23:48 AM »
I'd be very interested to see the figures in a month or so for Dwilight. It'd probably give away too much info right now (even though it's publicly accessible), but it'd be nice to know once the continent settles down a bit.

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Re: Noble density per realm - Dwilight
« Reply #84: August 16, 2014, 10:07:25 PM »
I might create an account just to keep track of these figures, unless someone already in the game wishes to.

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Re: Noble density per realm - Dwilight
« Reply #85: August 17, 2014, 01:13:54 AM »

Active characters on Dwilight
Realm/date28/2/1431/3/1430/4/1431/5/1430/6/1431/7/1416/8/14
Astrum17192623202018
Asylon42423820212217
Barca39382921221615
Corsanctum1373----
D'Hara23282528282827
Fissoa28313332333334
Luria Nova37424758494650
Morek Empire35393737302822
Niselur28166----
Swordfell19192427191922
TOTAL281281268246222212205

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Re: Noble density per realm - Dwilight
« Reply #86: August 17, 2014, 01:28:46 AM »
An issue that people don't seem to be taking into account - on all of the islands, not just Dwilight - is that the region:noble ratio is skewed in realms with more cities.

Many realms have most of their nobles in richer city estates, because lordships have no value.

Many regions have less gold, often are in realms where most of the perks of being a lord have been stripped away - and so you have lots of empty regions that are in fine condition and probably making a bit of gold for the Duke each week, but contribute to the emptiness.

This leads directly to not wanting to have wars, because you already have too much land.

Summary: The Ice and Hordes didn't go far enough to actually change anything, and some islands could use a bit more shrinkage.

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Re: Noble density per realm - Dwilight
« Reply #87: August 17, 2014, 01:39:00 AM »
Those figures are quite interesting. It looks like Astrum and Swordfell have stayed roughly the same, like Luria, Fissoa and D'hara have seen increases, like Asylon, Barca and Morek have seen big drops and obviously Niselur and Corsanctum no longer exist.

So what I see there is basically the western realms losing a large number of nobles, including the surviving ones, which is to be expected with realms which have lost their homelands, but this in turn has driven an increase in nobles for the eastern realms with the exception of Morek which is managing to buck the trend by shedding nobles rapidly - almost certainly due to reasons unique to the atmosphere in that realm.

Which means that overall the closing of western Dwilight has been a partial success and a partial failure. On the one hand, it has driven an increase in noble density in the south (I suspect the north would have seen this decline pretty much no matter what happened) but it has also lead to a large fall in total noble numbers as well - which is not surprising considering how demoralising this must have been for nobles in the realms hit by monsters.

It'd be interesting to see what the numbers are like for other continents. I get the impression from the limited perspective of my characters that it's worked far better on EC than FEI and I have no idea what's happened in AT.

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Re: Noble density per realm - Dwilight
« Reply #88: August 18, 2014, 07:01:27 PM »
I have split out the Knight/Region efficiency discussion to here:
http://forum.battlemaster.org/index.php/topic,6079.0.html
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Re: Noble density per realm - Dwilight
« Reply #89: August 18, 2014, 09:01:18 PM »
I have split out the Knight/Region efficiency discussion to here:
http://forum.battlemaster.org/index.php/topic,6079.0.html

Thank you. That was frankly turning a bit ugly.