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Re: Luria Nova vs The Rest
« Reply #60: October 01, 2014, 04:19:46 PM »
Nobody disputes D'Hara's validity to attack Luria Nova, nor would anybody dispute it the other way around. What is curious, though, is that now pretty much everyone is trying to invade Luria Nova. The painful part is that they are not successful, except for the occasional taking of what now has become Luria's borderlands.
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« Reply #61: October 01, 2014, 05:45:12 PM »
Nobody disputes D'Hara's validity to attack Luria Nova, nor would anybody dispute it the other way around. What is curious, though, is that now pretty much everyone is trying to invade Luria Nova. The painful part is that they are not successful, except for the occasional taking of what now has become Luria's borderlands.

What's interesting about this is that both sides probably consider they are gaining ground, and so if the trend continues they will be the victors. D'Hara was left with barely anything when the war started, Barca lost all of their mainland and yet established themselves a beachhead, and Fissoa took a few regions they never had or had not had save for very brief periods. From this perspective, they are winning and gaining ground. Luria Nova, on the other hand, can probably look at how they destroyed Asylon, how they retook Giask from them, how they retook Shinnen from Barca (they had lost it, right?), and so on.
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Re: Luria Nova vs The Rest
« Reply #62: October 01, 2014, 05:54:35 PM »
When the war started D'hara held more territory than it ever had at any point in history.
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Re: Luria Nova vs The Rest
« Reply #63: October 01, 2014, 08:10:43 PM »
Luria Nova currently has twice as many nobles as the second largest realm. That means it can successfully wage war on two/three largest realms simultaneously. Coupled with Luria's aggressive stance that in turns means it's a classic "kill it before it grows" situation.
It's like a dragon sitting in the middle of a village. You either throw all you've got at it or it'll eat the knights one by one until it's too bloated to continue. And afterwards it will just slowly morek into oblivion like a dead dinosaur, because there won't be any power nearby able to even nibble at it.

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« Reply #64: October 01, 2014, 08:13:24 PM »
And afterwards it will just slowly morek into oblivion like a dead dinosaur, because there won't be any power nearby able to even nibble at it.

Um...hello? This is Luria we're talking about.

Once there's no external pressure to keep its nobles focused outward, they'll start fighting amongst themselves again, like they did for the first several RL years of the realm's existence (under multiple names).

If Luria wins this war, I predict it will be no more than 6 months before the first secession.
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Re: Luria Nova vs The Rest
« Reply #65: October 02, 2014, 12:01:13 AM »
Um...hello? This is Luria we're talking about.

Once there's no external pressure to keep its nobles focused outward, they'll start fighting amongst themselves again, like they did for the first several RL years of the realm's existence (under multiple names).

If Luria wins this war, I predict it will be no more than 6 months before the first secession.

Yes unless things have changed dramatically the only time Luria isn't fighting internally is when there is a big enough external threat to force them.
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Re: Luria Nova vs The Rest
« Reply #66: October 02, 2014, 12:19:02 AM »
Ahhh Luria, functionally dysfunctional since the beginning.
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Re: Luria Nova vs The Rest
« Reply #67: October 02, 2014, 02:18:30 AM »
Um...hello? This is Luria we're talking about.

Once there's no external pressure to keep its nobles focused outward, they'll start fighting amongst themselves again, like they did for the first several RL years of the realm's existence (under multiple names).

If Luria wins this war, I predict it will be no more than 6 months before the first secession.

With all the Asylonians and Niselurians in Luria... You can guarantee it.
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Re: Luria Nova vs The Rest
« Reply #68: October 02, 2014, 03:36:24 AM »
What's interesting about this is that both sides probably consider they are gaining ground, and so if the trend continues they will be the victors. D'Hara was left with barely anything when the war started, Barca lost all of their mainland and yet established themselves a beachhead, and Fissoa took a few regions they never had or had not had save for very brief periods. From this perspective, they are winning and gaining ground. Luria Nova, on the other hand, can probably look at how they destroyed Asylon, how they retook Giask from them, how they retook Shinnen from Barca (they had lost it, right?), and so on.
Luria never lost Shinnen. We did lose the Purlieus, but LN retook that about 1 in game year ago.
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Re: Luria Nova vs The Rest
« Reply #69: October 03, 2014, 11:42:02 PM »
As for the whole rebellion thingy, I'm not all too convinced about it to be honest, the realm changed a lot and the longer this war is ongoing the more permanent it will be. So how strange it might seem, the other realms on dwi are doing Sholan a favor. ;)

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Re: Luria Nova vs The Rest
« Reply #70: October 04, 2014, 05:03:08 AM »
A few incorrect statements here...

Luria Nova did not initiate the Tomb Island War to destroy D'hara. The declared intent of the war was to liberate the Tomb Islands as compensation for D'hara not voluntarily making right its wrong in...blah blah old treaties and other IC reasonings. It's okay to promote propaganda ICly, but can we be somewhat objective OOCly? For my part on that, Luria Nova might've kept going against D'hara after the Tomb Islands depending on a variety of factors (long cultural hatred after all), but it might just as well have stopped to consolidate its holdings too.

D'hara, at the time of the Southern League's invasion of Luria Nova, had lost only their Paisland/Paisly/rurals regions, which they'd only recently conquered from Saffalore/Phantaria. This is hardly being left with 'barely anything' as claimed.

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Re: Luria Nova vs The Rest
« Reply #71: October 04, 2014, 05:46:42 AM »
Ahhh Luria, functionally dysfunctional since the beginning.

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With all the Asylonians and Niselurians in Luria... You can guarantee it.

Won't need to if we simply cough up land for them - which has always been the intent since the invasion of beasts started. One of the major pissing contests between Willhelm and I was because of Grimrog throwing him under a bus apparently and dropping the ball on that whole plan.

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Re: Luria Nova vs The Rest
« Reply #72: October 04, 2014, 07:55:07 PM »
Amaury's legacy lives on!  :P

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Re: Luria Nova vs The Rest
« Reply #73: October 08, 2014, 08:59:28 PM »
Won't need to if we simply cough up land for them - which has always been the intent since the invasion of beasts started.

I hear Morek has plenty of land they aren't using.

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Re: Luria Nova vs The Rest
« Reply #74: October 09, 2014, 11:12:47 AM »
I hope it is just a coincidental and fleeting moment but the nations fighting Luria have really started to up their game this last week or two...

At least it seems like that from where I stand!