Noble captured in battle can not be reappointed to his lordship after 5 days?

[De-Legro]

No no no.
If I'm not mistaken you can only appoint unlanded knights. That means if a lord wants to switch regions they would have to step down first before they can be appointed. Knights would also have to give up their estate so they can be appointed.

Isn't it a quick button press to give up those appointments though? I think any knight can be promoted doesn't matter if they have an estate or not.

[Stabbity]

A knight can only be made lord of the region he holds an estate in, otherwise he does  not show up as an option to appoint.

[De-Legro]

A knight can only be made lord of the region he holds an estate in, otherwise he does  not show up as an option to appoint.

Well of course, his oath is to the previous Lord/Region, the abuse otherwise would be rather simple.

Perhaps what is needed is an appointment system that requires the knight/lord to accept. Then in theory the offer to appointment could be sent to anyone, and accepting could take care of incidentals like giving up their last position.

[Stabbity]

Sounds unnecessary. No need to reinvent the wheel. The current system isn't broken, so why fix it?

[Eirikr]

The one thing I like about the acceptance check is that it also allows for refusal or inactivity... Reappoint an inactive lord and the debuffs aren't resolved immediately. Also promotes turnover of positions.

[Indirik]

The one thing I like about the acceptance check is that it also allows for refusal

You can already refuse to accept local lordship positions. There is an option under the Politics > Paperwork section for lordship.

[De-Legro]

You can already refuse to accept local lordship positions. There is an option under the Politics > Paperwork section for lordship.

Yeah, but I've been playing for years and constantly forget that there even IS a paperwork section. Nor does that resolve all the scenario's that Eirikr listed. Currently we limit the pool of who can be promoted, and while its not hard to get your chosen appointee onto that list, I see no reason why the whole thing couldn't be streamlined a bit more.

[Chenier]

Yeah, but I've been playing for years and constantly forget that there even IS a paperwork section. Nor does that resolve all the scenario's that Eirikr listed. Currently we limit the pool of who can be promoted, and while its not hard to get your chosen appointee onto that list, I see no reason why the whole thing couldn't be streamlined a bit more.

It's not a section one needs to visit all that often, if at all, since elections were changed to referendums.

[Eirikr]

You can already refuse to accept local lordship positions. There is an option under the Politics > Paperwork section for lordship.

WHAT?! Oh man, I did miss that... But it's also a blanket refusal, right? And it has to be manually set by the "recipient"... so that wastes the opportunity for an inactivity mechanic, most useful in cases where the player actually unexpectedly cannot return for some time. Adding in this step means you don't have to wait for the automatic boot again. You can just choose someone else and if the original candidate returns and the lordship is taken, well now there's some natural turnover. (Potential risk of increased placeholder cases, though.)

Alternatively, on an RP angle, maybe I only want a certain region and am holding out for it? I know, in practice, most appointments are discussed beforehand, but in the case of a surprise, why am I forced to go through the "step down" process for a lordship I never wanted?

[Chenier]

It'd be nice if those in power could click to "propose" a position to someone, which in turn would require him to accept it.

It seems ridiculous to impose a h/p hit when a lord of a shoddy region wants to get appointed to a city lordship and needs to "step down". Forcing people to abandon their estates feels equally overly bureaucratic and adds nothing to gameplay, just frustration.

[trying]

It'd be nice if those in power could click to "propose" a position to someone, which in turn would require him to accept it.

It seems ridiculous to impose a h/p hit when a lord of a shoddy region wants to get appointed to a city lordship and needs to "step down". Forcing people to abandon their estates feels equally overly bureaucratic and adds nothing to gameplay, just frustration.

My point exactly.

[De-Legro]

It'd be nice if those in power could click to "propose" a position to someone, which in turn would require him to accept it.

It seems ridiculous to impose a h/p hit when a lord of a shoddy region wants to get appointed to a city lordship and needs to "step down". Forcing people to abandon their estates feels equally overly bureaucratic and adds nothing to gameplay, just frustration.

Chénier and I agree, now if Delvin does too the world will IMPLODE.

[Anaris]

Well, look who all is behind the times.

I've been talking about implementing exactly that feature for over a year now.

*FOOMP*

[De-Legro]

Well, look who all is behind the times.

I've been talking about implementing exactly that feature for over a year now.

*FOOMP*

Yeah that probably fell within my "trying to break my BM habit" time.

[Indirik]

It seems ridiculous to impose a h/p hit when a lord of a shoddy region wants to get appointed to a city lordship and needs to "step down". Forcing people to abandon their estates feels equally overly bureaucratic and adds nothing to gameplay, just frustration.

It does provide an opportunity to betray someone into giving up a lordship with promises of a better one, and then refusing to give it to them after they step down.