Having your character be a member of your family is IC, and inevitable.

[Gloria]

My character Altagracia just became Countess of Poitiers.  One of the people I play with has complained that this was for OOC reasons, because my character has not interacted much, publicly.

I feel bad about the accusation.  Mainly, because being elected is not something I chose.  And frankly, there was no ooc discussion or planning to be appointed.  If I was going for ooc reasons, and pure strategy, I wouldn't have Altagracia run in the elections, as she gets a lot more gold as a dame of Kazakh.  But "Countess of Poitiers" is a title Altagracia would want.

The thing is, she IS a Driscol.  And the Driscol estate is in Poitiers.  And that is designed into the game mechanics, and thus whatever we do IC, we cannot deny that fact.  Also, whatever my character says, her family's history is automatically her background story.

So I'd really like it if, instead of resenting and accusing me of not roleplaying, you'd respond IC.  It's totally ok for your character to be upset that she was not elected, and to hate Altagracia for it.

Thanks.

[Stabbity]

Probably better sent in realm, than on here. A lot of people don't read the forums.

[Constantine]

So I'd really like it if, instead of resenting and accusing me of not roleplaying, you'd respond IC.

If you would like to handle this issue IC, what is the purpose of this thread?

[Indirik]

If you would like to handle this issue IC, what is the purpose of this thread?

Because some people like to vent. Or to talk.

And, really, it's probably better to do that on the forums, instead of IG.

[Constantine]

I'm all for talking. But so far it just looks like one player going to the forums to tell the entire community that the other player is an !@#$%^&.
Not cool, settle it IC indeed.

[Ravier Nebehn]

I'm assuming that the whole "elections" talk is a miscommunication because Lords are appointed in Eponllyn. And I've seen no messages today or yesterday saying a new Lord had been appointed to that region, unless it's still in the planning stages?

[vonGenf]

I'm assuming that the whole "elections" talk is a miscommunication because Lords are appointed in Eponllyn. And I've seen no messages today or yesterday saying a new Lord had been appointed to that region, unless it's still in the planning stages?

Poitiers is in Nivemus.

[Gloria]

Because some people like to vent. Or to talk.

And, really, it's probably better to do that on the forums, instead of IG.

This. Both. Because we're playing a game among friends.

[Ravier Nebehn]

Poitiers is in Nivemus.

So it is. I must still think Westmoor exists or something.

[Eduardo Almighty]

Or because the question can be discussed IG and here with two different perspectives.

[De-Legro]

I'm all for talking. But so far it just looks like one player going to the forums to tell the entire community that the other player is an !@#$%^&.
Not cool, settle it IC indeed.

I can't see how when the other player is not named. This is a valid thing to bring to the Forum, if only to discuss how we as a community would like to see these matters resolved in the future.

[Ketchum]

I'm all for talking. But so far it just looks like one player going to the forums to tell the entire community that the other player is an !@#$%^&.
Not cool, settle it IC indeed.

I am in Gloria's realm. I understand what Gloria means. What Gloria meaning by IC, is actually that other player is voicing in OOC. Gloria wants the other player to voice IC, otherwise how can Gloria responds to OOC in IC way in game.

Please allow me to Bold the key points of Gloria first post for better understanding.

My character Altagracia just became Countess of Poitiers.  One of the people I play with has complained that this was for OOC reasons, because my character has not interacted much, publicly.

I feel bad about the accusation.  Mainly, because being elected is not something I chose.  And frankly, there was no ooc discussion or planning to be appointed.  If I was going for ooc reasons, and pure strategy, I wouldn't have Altagracia run in the elections, as she gets a lot more gold as a dame of Kazakh.  But "Countess of Poitiers" is a title Altagracia would want.

The thing is, she IS a Driscol.  And the Driscol estate is in Poitiers.  And that is designed into the game mechanics, and thus whatever we do IC, we cannot deny that fact.  Also, whatever my character says, her family's history is automatically her background story.

So I'd really like it if, instead of resenting and accusing me of not roleplaying, you'd respond IC.  It's totally ok for your character to be upset that she was not elected, and to hate Altagracia for it.

Thanks.

[flames]

Well, it is understandable that your character is a part of family, and it is logical that a person from respected family would get elected/appointed without much effort.

However, try to look at this from the other side. I am relatively new player and when I just came, I saw (and participated myself) a lot of elections where member of young unknown family would be very vocal and trying to run a nice campaign, but the title would go to a character from old family, who barely wrote a message. It is quite meh from the new players point (why the !@#$ should I ever try campaigning, if old player will get the title anyways).

[Jens Namtrah]

Well, it is understandable that your character is a part of family, and it is logical that a person from respected family would get elected/appointed without much effort.

However, try to look at this from the other side. I am relatively new player and when I just came, I saw (and participated myself) a lot of elections where member of young unknown family would be very vocal and trying to run a nice campaign, but the title would go to a character from old family, who barely wrote a message. It is quite meh from the new players point (why the !@#$ should I ever try campaigning, if old player will get the title anyways).

Oh, look! There's that old "cliques aren't a problem with player retention" issue rearing its ugly head again. Seems to pop up in the least likely of places.

[Constantine]

I can't see how when the other player is not named. This is a valid thing to bring to the Forum, if only to discuss how we as a community would like to see these matters resolved in the future.

The players who are aware of the situation all know who is being implied here.
Those from different realms don't, yeah... But what kind of a discussion is expected here? Taking IC issue OOC is bad everyone knows that. Doesn't mean you should respond in kind.

Oh, look! There's that old "cliques aren't a problem with player retention" issue rearing its ugly head again. Seems to pop up in the least likely of places.

Cliques are a nasty word for a not necessarily bad phenomenon.
Basically, cliques are groups of players who've been playing together for a while and grew to enjoy it and trust each other. That alone is a actually a good thing and I'd say inevitable. It only becomes problematic when cliques become exclusive and elitists. But due to the shortage of active players most cliques are actually recruiting.
I'm comparatively new (less than six months) and all of my three nobles are landed. One of them has recently played an instrumental part in a rebellion and received a major city as a prize. But that's not even the point. I've found that just being a knight in an active and dynamic realm is more fun than being a Duke in a stagnant quagmire.
So, flames, if you are active and are fun to interact with you will start achieving your character's goals soon enough. If you're doing your best but being absolutely ignored - emigrate. That's the best advice I can come up with.