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*Quietly reads, finding it all interesting*

How's it going? Haven't dealt with Jenred in a while or been on IRC.
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Bedwyr,
 
Have you thought about a structure similar to a Japanese Council of Reagents, where acting out of step might lead to being cannibalized by your peers?  It was much safer to be king of a small piece of the world, in other words.

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Bedwyr,
 
Have you thought about a structure similar to a Japanese Council of Reagents, where acting out of step might lead to being cannibalized by your peers?  It was much safer to be king of a small piece of the world, in other words.

Council of Reagents, huh?  Well, they'd better have good chemistry, or it'll never work out.
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*Quietly reads, finding it all interesting*

How's it going? Haven't dealt with Jenred in a while or been on IRC.

Both of us are doing well, been more focused on Arcachon/Aenilia as you might imagine.  Arcaea's not going to be able to project more south than Aenilia for a good while anyway, and Jenred's not exactly known for being a mediator type.
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Bedwyr,
 
Have you thought about a structure similar to a Japanese Council of Reagents, where acting out of step might lead to being cannibalized by your peers?  It was much safer to be king of a small piece of the world, in other words.

I'm not familiar with the concept, you'll have to explain it to me later.  And since Tim already covered the chemistry joke, I'll let it slide (grins).
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Council of Reagents, huh?  Well, they'd better have good chemistry, or it'll never work out.

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I'll be eager to see how the Empire continues when the emperor becomes particularly unpopular. If Jenred manages to instill a precedent that its better inside than out, then we can have a fair few powerful people more interested in keeping the system for their own benefit. The political dynamics should be interesting for the knights as well if we sort out the odd dispute by a few raids here, a war there...

Now two proper questions: First, do you think the opinion of the Emperor and the other rulers would forcefully overrule another realm if they felt it was dangerous to the empire was a whole?

Second, when you talk about how external wars would be thought, do you mean to say you'd rather everyone do their own thing or do you think that the rest of the Empire will usually (say with a smaller realm of the Empire declaring war on a larger external foe) to avoid being weakened as a whole?
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Now two proper questions: First, do you think the opinion of the Emperor and the other rulers would forcefully overrule another realm if they felt it was dangerous to the empire was a whole?

Depends on how dangerous, but yes, I would think the Emperor could and would.

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Second, when you talk about how external wars would be thought, do you mean to say you'd rather everyone do their own thing or do you think that the rest of the Empire will usually (say with a smaller realm of the Empire declaring war on a larger external foe) to avoid being weakened as a whole?

Individual.  If a tiny realm of the Empire starts a fight it can't win, then it'll lose.  Jenred's not interested in saving idiots from themselves.
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But isn't Jenred interested in expanding his Empire?
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But isn't Jenred interested in expanding his Empire?

Indeed he is.  But he's firmly of the opinion that, say, thirty regions under leadership that is all competent is better than thirty five with incompetent leaders.  It also makes good political sense, as the rest of the island will be far less likely to unite against the empire if they see that it only unites for good reasons and not just to save parts of itself.  Now, given that this is Jenred we're talking about (who is by far the most insane character I've ever roleplayed in or out of Battlemaster) "good" reasons may be a little flexible, but the Far East seems to have accepted that about him.  Not even the Zonasans really protested when he marched an army down to sack half their realm over Erandi's (quite mild) insult to Edara.

From the Monarch level...Why would you want to help one of your rivals for rank keep power against you unless the emperor made an issue of it?  Sure, there may be the usual politics and alliances, but everyone has to contend with those so that's not an empire-specific problem.

And even more importantly, from an OOC standpoint, that's just not fun.  I'm somewhat skeptical about how often people claim gangbangs happen for no reason (as I've seen just how many times those protesting thought that insulting every other Ruler and pissing on their religion didn't justify the gangbang) but I'm fully aware that the phenomenon does happen, and want to prevent it as much as possible.  Hence why I really like the challenge system.  Bringing legitimate, guaranteed, almost whenever you want one-on-one wars with both sides barred from accepting any outside help and a set time limit so the war doesn't get old and boring?  That's one of my dreams come true, and I think that holds for a lot of other people too.
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Out of curiosity, what will be done with all the gold that goes to the Imperial Throne? You're talking about hundreds, perhaps thousands if the empire gets big enough, of gold each week. Loans to less-well off members of the empire? Tournaments?

And will the Imperial Throne have its own council? It's own judge, banker, general? Those positions would have to be RPed, I guess, given the Imperial Throne won't be its own separate realm...unless of course the Emperor took a single city for himself, seceded it and used that as the Imperial Seat.

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Out of curiosity, what will be done with all the gold that goes to the Imperial Throne? You're talking about hundreds, perhaps thousands if the empire gets big enough, of gold each week. Loans to less-well off members of the empire? Tournaments?

Infrastructure funding for badly hit areas, diplomacy, bribery (but I repeat myself), patronizing the arts, tournaments...The phrase in the Charter is going to be something along the lines of "for the good of the empire".

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And will the Imperial Throne have its own council? It's own judge, banker, general? Those positions would have to be RPed, I guess, given the Imperial Throne won't be its own separate realm...unless of course the Emperor took a single city for himself, seceded it and used that as the Imperial Seat.

I don't think an imperial council will be necessary, and having a separate realm for the imperial seat would not mesh with the rest of the plans for how the emperor would be selected.
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You forgot the fund that pays for the company of scantily-clad women with large bosoms.

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You forgot the fund that pays for the company of scantily-clad women with large bosoms.

(grins) Not in Jenred's court.  Obsessed with his wife, remember?  I imagine future High Kings might have something of that nature, of course...
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(grins) Not in Jenred's court.  Obsessed with his wife, remember?  I imagine future High Kings might have something of that nature, of course...

They aren't for the King, they are for all the courtiers. I mean otherwise our attention will naturally be drawn to the only buxom Lady in the court, and nobody wants to see the consequences of that.
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