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Heraldry Charges
« Topic Start: May 13, 2017, 01:39:54 AM »
There's only a limited number of charges thus far. So, in the interests of gathering more ideas for heraldric charges, what else should exists?

Dragons, elephants, goats, and seahorses are my immediate suggestions.

EDIT: I now realize there is a dragon on the other beasts page, that I overlooked.
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Re: Heraldry Charges
« Reply #1: May 13, 2017, 01:55:48 AM »
Well, forever ago, I had made this for my family, which is not currently supported by the engine. Would it be feasible to support such a thing?


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« Reply #2: May 13, 2017, 01:58:55 AM »
Also, the "é" in my family name not showing, displays as "Chnier family". And I can't seem to edit the heraldry twice, gives a white page on all further attempts.

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« Reply #3: May 13, 2017, 02:07:13 AM »
Well, forever ago, I had made this for my family, which is not currently supported by the engine. Would it be feasible to support such a thing?



That is, unfortunately, much more complex than we are likely to be able to support. We might be able to do something like quartering, or having a couple of charges separated by a...does one call that a bend, or something? Sorry, my heraldic is pretty weak.

But that's got six charges on it, and four of them are inside the stripe...definitely advanced stuff when you have to program it in generically.
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« Reply #4: May 13, 2017, 02:12:53 AM »
Also, the "é" in my family name not showing, displays as "Chnier family".

Hm. Please report that on the bugtracker.

I'm still not entirely sure what the right solution to non-ASCII names is...I'd love to be able to guarantee that they'll Just Work™, but I really can't :\

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And I can't seem to edit the heraldry twice, gives a white page on all further attempts.

Yeah, Vita just showed me that one. I'll fix it when I get a chance—tonight or tomorrow.
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« Reply #5: May 13, 2017, 02:53:23 AM »
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And I can't seem to edit the heraldry twice, gives a white page on all further attempts.

Yeah, Vita just showed me that one. I'll fix it when I get a chance—tonight or tomorrow.
For everyone else (and Anaris when he looks at it), this white page error only occurs after saving your design.

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Re: Heraldry Charges
« Reply #6: May 13, 2017, 02:59:37 AM »
I agree with Anaris about the shield. The closest we might be able to come to that would be the Blue Bend on the White French Shield with the two red stars. Currently, the placement of the two red stars is not possible, but I think, with some effort, it could be made possible. The four fleur-de-lis in the bend would be a lot more difficult.

To start with, we would need a Star svg vector image.

So, the list: Star, Elephant, Goat, Seahorse.

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Re: Heraldry Charges
« Reply #7: May 13, 2017, 03:06:05 AM »
Hm. Please report that on the bugtracker.

I'm still not entirely sure what the right solution to non-ASCII names is...I'd love to be able to guarantee that they'll Just Work™, but I really can't :\


I had the same problem with my "ë" in Noël.  Nol isn't quite as epic  :D

I tried to search/submit this on the bugtracker as a guest (using guest as username and password like the wiki says), but it said I was unable to log in.

By the way, nice work!  The heraldry is a fun feature.

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« Reply #8: May 13, 2017, 03:20:59 AM »
I tried to search/submit this on the bugtracker as a guest (using guest as username and password like the wiki says), but it said I was unable to log in.

Yeah, we had to disable that because of spam.

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By the way, nice work!  The heraldry is a fun feature.

Thanks! A lot of credit goes to szquirrel, who has sadly moved on from BattleMaster dev work.
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« Reply #9: May 13, 2017, 11:01:39 PM »
That is, unfortunately, much more complex than we are likely to be able to support. We might be able to do something like quartering, or having a couple of charges separated by a...does one call that a bend, or something? Sorry, my heraldic is pretty weak.

But that's got six charges on it, and four of them are inside the stripe...definitely advanced stuff when you have to program it in generically.

Yea, my heraldry terminology sucks too. And I'd understand if it proves too complex.

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Re: Heraldry Charges
« Reply #10: May 13, 2017, 11:36:58 PM »
Can I have a heart?  ;D

Also, having multiple images on the crest would be cool! What do you call them? "Charges"?
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Re: Heraldry Charges
« Reply #11: May 15, 2017, 10:21:02 PM »
I would like to see the following"


==Animal Heads==
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Types: Wolf, Lion, Dragon, Boar, Bear, Eagle Etc.
Special Category: Helms (Mediveal, Viking, Samurai, Roman, whatevs devs!)


If there is any interest, I can probably find PNGs online.
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Re: Heraldry Charges
« Reply #12: May 15, 2017, 10:23:12 PM »
I would like to see the following"


==Animal Heads==
Options: Snarling or Calm
Directions: Facing Viewer or  Side Profile left/right
Types: Wolf, Lion, Dragon, Boar, Bear, Eagle Etc.
Special Category: Helms (Mediveal, Viking, Samurai, Roman, whatevs devs!)


If there is any interest, I can probably find PNGs online.

PNGs will not help. They need to be SVGs, and they need to be either a permissive CC license or public domain.

As far as interest...basically, I'm interested in just about anything that a) fits the milieu, and b) matches the style of the existing ones. Find it, post it here, and if it fits those criteria, I'll almost certainly add it (sooner or later).
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Re: Heraldry Charges
« Reply #14: May 17, 2017, 08:14:11 AM »
I wonder if it would be possible to get a star of Chaos.
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