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T0mislav

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Re: Marriages
« Reply #15: June 18, 2017, 09:50:11 PM »
I like the idea, but in completely different form...

I am against marriages just between characters... there is no IC use of them but they can drag many complications... like if Lord of one region marry Lady of the other region it would be mess if it is allowed that they both can govern both regions and if it is not allowed then what would marriage mean? Also if there are marriages, then why would there no be children - and if some third player would play child or adopted child of two Lords who would with all right have claims over regions of his/her parents - how it would affect "no placeholder rule"?... There are many more similar complications... Also, same sex marriages would never happen in medieval feudal society... But it is the fact that marriages were important part of those societies... especially arranged diplomatic marriages.

In the light of Diplomatic marriages, it would be nice to have option that if there are two realms where elections for position of Ruler are restricted and if one of them is ruled by male ruler and the other by female ruler, that there is option for them to engage in marriage what the game could treat as 2nd Federation (considering that the game allows only one Federation to be formed).
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Re: Marriages
« Reply #16: June 19, 2017, 05:40:02 PM »
I don't understand what you are trying to say, can you please explain further?
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Re: Marriages
« Reply #17: June 19, 2017, 06:45:10 PM »
Game mechanism is restricting changes in Diplomatic Relations of realms allowing that each realm can form only single Feteration.

The idea is that under options where Ruler can change Diplomatic Relations with other realms can be added option for marriage proposal which if accepted would immediately define Diplomatic Relations between those two realms as Federation... Federation formed by Diplomatic marriage should not affect ability of the realm to regularly form Federation by Diplomatic Relations with some third realm, and it should be treated by the game mechanism as 2nd Federation (which could be formed only by marriage, keeping the restriction that regularly by Diplomacy only single Federation can be formed).

For two Rulers to be able to propose Diplomatic marriage to another Ruler two conditions have to be satisfied:
1. Both realms must have restricted elections for ruler (Considering that Diplomatic Relations of the realm would be directly related to relations (marriage) between Rulers, it would have no sense to allow such diplomatic option to realms which have only temporary rulers (where rulers are elected on monthly/quarterly elections), but rulers of both realms should be permanent (NO elections for ruler position)).
2. Gender of Ruler to whom diplomatic marriage is proposed must be opposite of gender of one who is proposing the marriage (in feudal society there is absolute no way that persons of the same sex could engage in marriage).
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Re: Marriages
« Reply #18: June 19, 2017, 07:15:05 PM »
If we implement marriages, they will certainly not affect diplomatic relations on their own. While I wouldn't completely rule out other possibilities, it is definitely most likely that we would simply implement them as a roleplay tool that the game will keep track of for you so you don't have to keep referring to wiki pages or something.
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Re: Marriages
« Reply #19: June 27, 2017, 07:03:01 PM »
Out of curiosity, what are the major things standing in the way of this being approved and implemented?
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Re: Marriages
« Reply #20: July 25, 2017, 11:05:33 PM »
Is there room to approve this feature request?
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Re: Marriages
« Reply #21: August 11, 2017, 08:44:51 PM »
Obviously I love this feature as I'm one of those players who had a huge wedding RP with another and would be nice to see this through further.

In terms of diplomacy I think there should be no automatic change, but let it flow from there (or let them kick you out of the realm right Chamberlain ^^).

Also would there be a way to retroactively marry chars who have been RP married for years? Otherwise I have to activate Garas again...
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