Or they were spared by the south, then formed a super alliance with Lukon Portion Wetham and InnerGiblothica or whatever to roflstomp and destroy Minas Thalion while Oritolon kept Aren busy. Actually pretty lame.
If you just asked about this in game you could have proper answers that enhance your fun. As it is, it seems no matter what anyone says, you've decided everything that happened and hats just the way it is...
You seem to be oblivious to how very, very wrong your above statement is.
