I have lost multiple realms to Daimons.
I don't really care. I just go on and rebuild. There's no emotional involvement there. No great foe to stand against and such. Just a disembodied foe that comes and goes in time.
But when the Elven Masters of Sirion destroyed Oligarch? Oh. THAT I remember. THAT I continue to fight on and on and ever down that road.
And I enjoy playing that dynamic. My character is the guy who professes no wish to be involved in political wrangling and will never try to take over or betray the realm he is in. Because his only goal in life is liberating Oligarch and saving humanity from the Elven Masters of Sirion. It's a fun role to play and has really taken over that character.
That's the difference in my eyes between losing realms to a generic monstery enemy and another alliance of players.
