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dustole:
My noble has been declared a commoner because I am antagonistic towards a popular noble.  The rest of the realm is going along with it.   No way would the nobility accept such a thing.  At what point does game mechanics trump role playing and what recourse do I have?

Anaris:
The Titans are not here to be the RP police.

That said, if an entire realm is blatantly ignoring game mechanics to that degree...I'm not entirely comfortable with that.

This situation sounds like it needs some more detail for it to be clear whether (and to what degree) the general principle of "game mechanics trump RP" is being violated. Can you expand a little?

If you're not comfortable doing so in open forum, feel free to PM me either here or on Discord.

dustole:
Rania declared her commoner to be a noble and heir. The game says she's a commoner and not a noble.  The commoner was being treated as a noble in RP's and such.  I protested such things as it goes against what it means to be noble.  If they were going to declare a commoner to be heir to a Royal and a Duke I started asking pointed questions to gain more details.  Now I'm the bad guy...  yes I pushed buttons...  the gist seems to be that family history isn't accurate and now I've been 'demoted' to being a commoner.   No one wants to speak up against it even though the guide to adventurers goes against all they are doing. Rania is quite popular so no one is going to question her.     A noble being declared a commoner should cause riots and no one seems to care

Will Roberts:
That is not exactly accurate. The character has been demoted to a commoner level in a guild, not in general. In the eyes of the faith he is being treated of lower standing, not in every day noble life

D'Espana:
Plus a couple of other things. The situation has been irregular for sure, but IMO certainly not deserving of a Titan intervention. My POV:

Rania has a daughter, RPed from RL years as an NPC, which the player decided to eventually "bring to life" by making her an advie. This was meant to represent a daughter that was not officially recognized and that had been mostly kept hidden for many years. After that, the daughter is RPed to escape from his mother and begin a life of adventure in a different realm.

Eventually, and to the case at hand, the daughter comes home and, in a public RP ceremony, Rania recognizes her as her daughter. The RP then continues as she takes part in a ritual where portal stones are used, and the daughter sacrifices herself in the process. This daughter of Rania, now dead, had reciprocal emotional ties to a couple other nobles present in the RP, these ties dating all the way back to when she was used as an NPC. These nobles mourn her, as does Rania.

Now this is where things get interesting. Due to an irrelevant IC issue, dustole's character confronts one of the mourning nobles and berates him for mourning over a commoner. Several nobles, including Rania, jump in over several days and remind dustole's character that, no matter her origin, the daughter of the Rania was, well, the daughter of Rania, and due to how respected Rania is and the sacrifice made by her daughter he is to stop all the ruckus at once.

Alas, he does not. Dustole's character keeps charging repeteadly against the mourning noble and, later on, Rania, and says increasingly severe statements that end up becoming direct accusations to Rania (the leader of the realm's religion, a theocracy), stating that she may have been banging commoners or even Daimons and insinuating that perhaps she might even be an undead abomination. That doesn't sit well with Rania's allies, who come to the rescue and start accusing dustole's character of several things, the final one even being heresy for saying such things about the highest figure of the faith.

Finally, Rania comes in, demotes him to adventurer-level in the religion's temple and says that he is to be isolated as a consequence for his words and actions. Dustole's character doesn't take it good, faces the possibility of a holy trial against him and here we are now.

This is a brief summary, I will respond any questions to the best of my ability.

So irregular? Yes, the decision to have Rania's daughter made as an adventurer and dustole's character demoted to adventurer rank in the faith are inusual. A breach of the game mechanics and reason for the Titans to intervene? Probably not.

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