Lurian Empire

[Ramiel]

(shrugs) Not my problem if Marche decides he doesn't want to talk.  He'll regret it sooner or later.

See now thats a threat

[Lorgan]

And Bedwyr is supposed to be the good guy...

[Bedwyr]

It's not a threat.  Refusing to engage with your neighbors is always a bad plan, as pretty much any long-time Ruler can tell you.  Isolation in this game only works if you have physical isolation.

[Vellos]

For what it's worth, contacting just Marche is a bad idea. Telrunya isn't super-uber active OOCly, and, even ICly, neither D'Hara's prime minister, nor even D'Hara's House of Lords, will be making the decision of what to do about Port Nebel alone. Dunno how it is in Barca, but I communicate more with the Elders of the Véinsørmoot than I do with the realm council of Terran.

Maybe if Coli wants to do some political pressure, he should realize that, if there's fighting over Port Nebel, it'd be, in very large part, Terran's army that he's fighting? Because I'll say that, as far as any IC information my character has, the situation looks very clear cut and simple: Amaury seized Port Nebel and is holding it hostage. No other contact has been made by Lurians, and there are no moderates among them. That's how it ICly looks for most of us in the Véinsørmoot.

Full Disclosure: I'm trying to OOC hint to you to negotiate with the Véinsørmoot on the whole, because of my OOC (and IC I guess) goal of making the Véinsørmoot a very strong organization, and this type of conflict can easily cement it together.

[Telrunya]

Marche is talking, he's just slow to react. It takes time to discuss matters and I've had 20 marked messages to handle. I finally managed to go through all of them. Now back to my University to tell them to shut up and take my money

I'm glad when Elections are around the corner again so I can let someone else deal with this mess.

EDIT: Vellos is right. I'm receiving answers to my letters through the Véinsørmoot instead of just being replied to! It's awesome to see how the Véinsørmoot managed to acquire that position without much explicit approval by taking matters in their own hands (Barca's existence, for example), although Marche is still secretly a very tiny bit annoyed at Hireshmont because he was demoted when he wasn't Ruler, but oh boy, does he need them now.

[Vellos]

Marche is talking, he's just slow to react. It takes time to discuss matters and I've had 20 marked messages to handle. I finally managed to go through all of them. Now back to my University to tell them to shut up and take my money

I'm glad when Elections are around the corner again so I can let someone else deal with this mess.

EDIT: Vellos is right. I'm receiving answers to my letters through the Véinsørmoot instead of just being replied to! It's awesome to see how the Véinsørmoot managed to acquire that position without much explicit approval by taking matters in their own hands (Barca's existence, for example), although Marche is still secretly a very tiny bit annoyed at Hireshmont because he was demoted when he wasn't Ruler, but oh boy, does he need them now.

Heh, yeah.

Oh and, just to tantalize you Lurians... Port Nebel is just one item on the Véinsørmoot's foreign policy agenda. We have one other big one at present, and a few other smaller ones that keep coming up.

Oh and, Marche... sign the damn federation already.

[Lorgan]

I'm starting to like Dwilight's 3 hegemony story that's being built more and more...

[Telrunya]

Three more days for that, because of meddling Lords (Who thought Republic was a good idea again?). I should have just signed it already before there was a chance to object. Curse my slowness. I thought I could do Prime Minister again, but I'm barely keeping up with things.

[Shizzle]

I'm starting to like Dwilight's 3 hegemony story that's being built more and more...

Same here, really. Too bad the border runs between Fissoa and Madina, kind of

And my char doesn't like Aumary, of course

[Anaris]

For what it's worth, contacting just Marche is a bad idea.

And how should he know that?

Maybe if Coli wants to do some political pressure, he should realize that, if there's fighting over Port Nebel, it'd be, in very large part, Terran's army that he's fighting?

And how should he know that?

Full Disclosure: I'm trying to OOC hint to you to negotiate with the Véinsørmoot on the whole, because of my OOC (and IC I guess) goal of making the Véinsørmoot a very strong organization, and this type of conflict can easily cement it together.

And how should he know IC that the Véinsørmoot even exists?

[Ramiel]

Never even heard of it IC Anaris.

As for no moderates... well... we do have some....somewhere.....possibly?

[JPierreD]

Two things:

1) No moderates? Who do you know besides Amaury in LN? He is the only radical, afaik. And in PeL, who do you know besides Koli? I thought he was pretty moderate...

2) The Greater Luria having tMP as the unifying religion? Yea right... 

[Ramiel]

Two things:

1) No moderates? Who do you know besides Amaury in LN? He is the only radical, afaik. And in PeL, who do you know besides Koli? I thought he was pretty moderate...

2) The Greater Luria having tMP as the unifying religion? Yea right... 

What are you on about? Amaury IS the Lurian Moderate!

Better than ImFl

[Solari]

Two things:
2) The Greater Luria having tMP as the unifying religion? Yea right... 

Like we've said: your heart can belong to whatever hippie god you want, but your ass, commerce, and infrastructure are managed by the Path.

[Bedwyr]

For what it's worth, contacting just Marche is a bad idea. Telrunya isn't super-uber active OOCly, and, even ICly, neither D'Hara's prime minister, nor even D'Hara's House of Lords, will be making the decision of what to do about Port Nebel alone. Dunno how it is in Barca, but I communicate more with the Elders of the Véinsørmoot than I do with the realm council of Terran.

Maybe if Coli wants to do some political pressure, he should realize that, if there's fighting over Port Nebel, it'd be, in very large part, Terran's army that he's fighting? Because I'll say that, as far as any IC information my character has, the situation looks very clear cut and simple: Amaury seized Port Nebel and is holding it hostage. No other contact has been made by Lurians, and there are no moderates among them. That's how it ICly looks for most of us in the Véinsørmoot.

Full Disclosure: I'm trying to OOC hint to you to negotiate with the Véinsørmoot on the whole, because of my OOC (and IC I guess) goal of making the Véinsørmoot a very strong organization, and this type of conflict can easily cement it together.

First, it's Koli.  Means, roughly, Dark Colin, and is fairly important to his character overall.

Second, while Matt is well aware of the organization and intrigued by it, Koli's never heard of it, or at least not in a context where he knew what the word meant.  Koli, I hope, is going to be known to history as the Great Compromiser, in both the good and bad senses, but there's little he can do when he's never even heard of this weird alliance thingy that D'hara's in.  If you want to, say, as the Ambassador of Terran make your position clear and let Koli know about how things work over there, then we can talk.  Until then there's not much I can do without breaking character knowledge.

Third, no one in Luria seized anything besides the opportunity