Lurian Empire

[Vellos]

new realms start over with low-quality RC's,

Errr.... what?

[Shizzle]

Errr.... what?

If a recently colonised duchy secedes. No?

[Sabrier]

I suppose they would have access only to RCs which would be likely to be lower quality, but the quality wouldn't actually decrease, which I think is a miscommunication.

[Solari]

Nobody that I can recall as being in on the ground floor of this project made "efficiency" a consideration.  It's supposed to be about creating 3x the positions, 3x the cultures, and 3x the fun.  Dwilight is as much about man v. nature as anything else, and a cluster of confederated city-states with some organizing principles (tMP) and a shared common ancestry (Lurian Empire) sounds much more fun than a single homogenous blob.

PeL has its own culture, LN has developed a distinct one fairly shortly, and considering the people leading the push for Shinnen, I expect they would as well.  Some of us (mostly in PeL) would LOVE to bring Fissoa into this.  It's the perfect size and place.

[Vellos]

The Lurian Hegemony spreads....

At this rate, we may actually have to include Asylon in the Véinsørmoot to preserve a balance of powers!

[Ramiel]

Nobody that I can recall as being in on the ground floor of this project made "efficiency" a consideration.  It's supposed to be about creating 3x the positions, 3x the cultures, and 3x the fun.  Dwilight is as much about man v. nature as anything else, and a cluster of confederated city-states with some organizing principles (tMP) and a shared common ancestry (Lurian Empire) sounds much more fun than a single homogenous blob.

PeL has its own culture, LN has developed a distinct one fairly shortly, and considering the people leading the push for Shinnen, I expect they would as well.  Some of us (mostly in PeL) would LOVE to bring Fissoa into this.  It's the perfect size and place.

But Solari, we both know how Sacha wants to bring Fissoa into this, and considering what has been said I am more inclined to agree with him

However 3=7 remember

[Bedwyr]

Okay, a few things.

1. The reason a third Kingdom is getting set up in Shinnen has far more to do with Amaury and Koli not wanting the other to expand, and trying to set up some balance of power thing by power-sharing in the third realm than anything else.  Yes, OOC, more positions are awesome and I like it, but it's much, much, much more to do with trying to set things up so there aren't any more Lurian civil wars.

2. The secondary reason is that Luria Nova has a better position to claim Shinnen, and Koli wants some of his own people in charge of the food that will be produced there someday.

3. Who says Luria and the Véinsørmoot have to be opponents 

[Shizzle]

Honestly, I wouldn't really mind having Fissoa be part of this. The problem would be though, that we'd have nobody to fight, because we're never going to turn our back on Madina. Certainly not to aid Luria Nova Teaming up with Shinnen against the Lurias, or teaming up with PeL against LN, now those are options Or remaining the rebel one-duchy realm that we are, of course. I like being in Fissoa

[Chenier]

3. Who says Luria and the Véinsørmoot have to be opponents 

The Lurians making stupid threats over Port Nebel are.

[Sacha]

Hey, don't blame us... you're the ones trespassing on our turf

[Chenier]

Hey, don't blame us... you're the ones trespassing on our turf

Giask revolted to us in the past, we made no such dumb threats. We'll remember this next time Giask is starving...

[Shizzle]

Chenier is making a valid point

[Sacha]

Giask revolted to us in the past, we made no such dumb threats. We'll remember this next time Giask is starving...

Feel free. But make sure you don't issue threats you can't deliver upon

And for the record, the times Giask revolted, it was by design. Once to force a renegade Duke out of his position, and once to annihilate a rebel realm. Unlike D'Hara, who had Port Nebel revolt out of sheer incompetence.

[Ramiel]

Honestly, I wouldn't really mind having Fissoa be part of this. The problem would be though, that we'd have nobody to fight, because we're never going to turn our back on Madina. Certainly not to aid Luria Nova Teaming up with Shinnen against the Lurias, or teaming up with PeL against LN, now those are options Or remaining the rebel one-duchy realm that we are, of course. I like being in Fissoa

Fissoa and PeL vs LN.... would we win Shizzle?... definitely something to consider

[Lorgan]

With all this talk about tMP being the "glue" of the Lurian Empire, I can't help but think that the Lurian civil wars are far from over and that the next one might be religiously tainted.