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Indirik

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Re: Searching for Sages and Wizards
« Reply #45: August 19, 2011, 04:54:59 PM »
That could be possible. Tom would have to create a new external data feed for unique items. Stats such as prestige and bonus could be automated. You wouldn't want to automate ownership. Some people may not want it known that they own a particular item. Interesting contradiction there, though: If no one knows you own it, how do you get the prestige from it?

The problem, though, is that the external data feed is not persistent following the loss/destruction of the object it represents. It would show whatever the feed currently shows. And if the item is lost/destroyed, the feed would then be empty, and the last known stats lost. You can see this with the semantic character and realm templates. As soon as the character/realm is deleted IG, the pages that use them go all wonky.
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Re: Searching for Sages and Wizards
« Reply #46: August 20, 2011, 04:30:47 AM »
As soon as the character/realm is deleted IG, the pages that use them go all wonky.
Two options come to mind:
1. Not actually deleting the character or unique item and instead adding an "IsDeleted" property on the Character and UniqueItem objects.  The ObjectSets (aka Tables, now that you guys are using ORM) would keep growing over time though.
2. Moving the deleted characters and items to separate "DeletedCharacter" and "DeletedUniqueItems" tables/objectSets.  That way the active tables stay small and queries on them are fast.

Presumably there's no worry about the total amount of data.
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Re: Searching for Sages and Wizards
« Reply #47: August 20, 2011, 08:11:42 AM »
Just how many sages are on these islands now anyways. I have yet to meet one at all since the change and have seen an item I am trying to repair drop over 20% trying to find these sages. Its only got 3% left and I fear it will be lost for good very soon.

It would be most helpful for those that meet a sage to also post where they found them.
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Re: Searching for Sages and Wizards
« Reply #48: August 20, 2011, 10:33:26 AM »
Top 40 Prestige Unique Items
The items on that list include bonuses to every single one of the skills.

I always assumed this linked from the pages. Or does one have to update it manually? I have two 8 prestige items that aren't there, so I'm guessing the latter...

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Re: Searching for Sages and Wizards
« Reply #49: August 20, 2011, 05:02:06 PM »
I believe the most prestigious list does update itself, but only from the individual prestigious items pages which need to be updated manually.

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Re: Searching for Sages and Wizards
« Reply #50: August 21, 2011, 08:56:04 PM »
I believe the most prestigious list does update itself, but only from the individual prestigious items pages which need to be updated manually.

correct

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Re: Searching for Sages and Wizards
« Reply #51: August 21, 2011, 08:56:59 PM »
Just how many sages are on these islands now anyways

Find out. There are some, but the number is limited.

And yes, cooperation on tracking them will help more than dumb luck now.

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Re: Searching for Sages and Wizards
« Reply #52: August 28, 2011, 08:40:03 PM »
For those that have run upon sages in dwilight can you give the location and how long ago that might have been? I have yet to find one since the changes.
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Re: Searching for Sages and Wizards
« Reply #53: August 29, 2011, 03:23:43 AM »
For those that have run upon sages in dwilight can you give the location and how long ago that might have been? I have yet to find one since the changes.

I think that ought to be kept IC

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Re: Searching for Sages and Wizards
« Reply #54: August 29, 2011, 10:01:07 AM »
I think that ought to be kept IC

Ultimately, yes. For the moment, I would be very interested in some feedback on how the new system is working, if it is easy to track them if you try, if it has become too much harder to find them initially, etc.

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Re: Searching for Sages and Wizards
« Reply #55: August 29, 2011, 10:09:12 AM »
Ultimately, yes. For the moment, I would be very interested in some feedback on how the new system is working, if it is easy to track them if you try, if it has become too much harder to find them initially, etc.

Ah, in that case:

Duraine the crazy oracle of truth Wizard has been in Lugagun (Dwilight) for several turns now.

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Re: Searching for Sages and Wizards
« Reply #56: August 29, 2011, 02:27:09 PM »
I haven't seen a single one on Dwilight yet.
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Re: Searching for Sages and Wizards
« Reply #57: August 29, 2011, 02:42:36 PM »
They can be found but they're broken.
http://bugs.battlemaster.org/view.php?id=6210

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Re: Searching for Sages and Wizards
« Reply #58: August 29, 2011, 02:44:14 PM »
creating scrolls worked

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Re: Searching for Sages and Wizards
« Reply #59: August 29, 2011, 03:05:20 PM »
But I need to repair an item?  :o Desperately. So, I can move on to other things, that is.