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The custom council position names & government system mod

Started by Kain, August 20, 2011, 08:39:25 AM

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Kain

I haven't had a char be ruler for 4-5 years now so the custom names thing is quite new to me. Can you always change the names of the 4 council positions when you're ruler or how does it work?

Also, government system. You need a rebellion to change the official stance from i.e democracy to monarchy, but can you change if the positions are elected and how often (or not at all) without a rebellion?

I.e a monarchies can be quite different from each other. One can be that ruler/judge is elected only once and general/banker as appointed. Another can have that ruler is elected once, judge quarterly and general/banker monthly.

Do you get what I'm trying to say? I'm not completely sure it will come across ;)
House of Kain: Silas (Swordfell), Epona (Nivemus)

Shizzle

Yeah, it's clear to me, I think.

To give you an exampe, I had a char that became ruler in a Monarchy. He was elected Regent, but I could readily change my own title to Grand Duke, as well as all other council positions. Changing from 'elected' to appointment was also possible from day one, as well as changes from 'elect quarterly' to 'monthly' or 'once', and 'all vote', 'only Lords vote', 'Dukes vote' or 'Lords representative'.

In short: you can customize everything, as long as you stay within the same system of government :)

Chenier

Quote from: Shizzle on August 20, 2011, 10:41:28 AM
In short: you can customize everything, as long as you stay within the same system of government :)

This.

Male and female titles, voting weights, position "power" (not implemented), lordship chosing method are all decided by the ruler.

Changing it creates unrest in the realm, however.
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Kain

Quote from: Chénier on August 20, 2011, 01:50:44 PM
This.

Male and female titles, voting weights, position "power" (not implemented), lordship chosing method are all decided by the ruler.

Changing it creates unrest in the realm, however.

Ok cool.

So how do you change from official tyranny to official monarchy after a succesful rebellion?
House of Kain: Silas (Swordfell), Epona (Nivemus)

Shizzle

Never been there, sorry. I've only seen one rebellion, in Fissoa, but that was a really strange situation. We made the Ruler ('we' didn't like him) rebel against himself, and somehow, we got rid of him that way. :P

Chenier

Quote from: Kain on August 20, 2011, 06:48:43 PM
Ok cool.

So how do you change from official tyranny to official monarchy after a succesful rebellion?

After a successful rebellion, where the ruler does not step down and is overthrown, the rebel leader gets to reform the government as he pleases.
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Indirik

Quote from: Shizzle on August 20, 2011, 10:41:28 AMIn short: you can customize everything, as long as you stay within the same system of government :)
You can customize almost everything. Remember that there are certain fundamental things related to the official government style that cannot be changed by customizing the government style. Things like the ruler-region bonus, whether or not the ruler loses office when imprisoned, and many others others, are features of the official government style that cannot be changed by the players.
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Chenier

Quote from: Indirik on August 22, 2011, 03:01:49 PM
You can customize almost everything. Remember that there are certain fundamental things related to the official government style that cannot be changed by customizing the government style. Things like the ruler-region bonus, whether or not the ruler loses office when imprisoned, and many others others, are features of the official government style that cannot be changed by the players.

Remind me again about office loss due to imprisonment?
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Indirik

Anaris posted it somewhere. I think it was that in Monarchy, Theocracy, and Tyranny, rulers don't lose their position when captured. In republics and democracies, they do. You'd have to find his post to make sure.
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