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Re: Sanguis Astroism
« Reply #2280: March 14, 2013, 11:14:14 AM »
Farronite Republic and Terran already out-gun Asylon, so, as far as I'm concerned the war is a foregone conclusion. A crusade won't matter one bit. Even if the outcome of the war was unsure, half of the crusaders are too far away to do anything. The other half have, or have probably, already made up their minds to join on their own volition. In any case, a crusade would merely be for show.

One thing that will be interesting to see is how the victors manage to overcome their lack of spare nobility. Ideally, the SA realms would want to destroy Asylon utterly and set up a new realm, drawing it's ranks from their own nobility. But they cannot do that, as, between all of them they have only an excess of roughly a dozen nobles. Even if all twelve of them wanted to migrate to the new realm they would be short by three, as Asylon has fifteen regions that would need to be governed. So, this conventional strategy of realm-founding wouldn't be particularly viable. Other strategies, such as looting Asylon's regions to revolt, in order to destroy it and leave the lands as empty husks, would probably be too much effort on the players' parts. Who would want to continually journey back and forth looting and refitting over and over again to the extent necessary for cleansing such a large area? Probably not many people. Asides from those two strategies, I cannot think of a way to resolve this war in a consequential manner. Any resolution which leads Asylon alive isn't much of a resolution at all, as Asylon could merely start the whole thing anew without suffering any consequences which it would have not already suffered. Basically, thanks to the lack of will-to-power on the part of it's enemies, Asylon is eternal.

No need to cleanse a whole area. Just TO a few cities, loot the other cities rogue, and the realm will collapse. No need to focus on their bunch of rurals.
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« Reply #2281: March 14, 2013, 03:32:19 PM »
Also, the Kosht area would be left untouched, since that's part of an agreement between Asylon and the Zuma (and we all know how hard it is to have the Zuma against you). So we're left with a dozen regions, fit for a new realm :D.

Or, like Chenier said, just loot them to revolt.

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« Reply #2282: March 14, 2013, 04:29:20 PM »
You don't have to loot them rogue. Go in during autumn and burn the fields. No food = mass starvation and rogueness. You don't even have to touch the cities. Burn the food, and the cities go away. Just ask Caerwyn.
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« Reply #2283: March 14, 2013, 04:30:25 PM »
Or, as demonstrated on Atamara, forced expulsion of prominent nobles, council-reshuffling, and subdivision of a realm can be powerful.

We spin off Itau into FR, Echiur and Koshtlom into a new realm, and leave "Asylon" in Via with about 1/3 as many nobles. Then we force everyone of city-lord or duke-rank or higher to leave the realms, and put 6-8 foreign nobles in one of the two parts of Asylon to keep it under control.

There are many options.
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« Reply #2284: March 14, 2013, 04:32:15 PM »
We spin off Itau into FR, Echiur and Koshtlom into a new realm, and leave "Asylon" in Via with about 1/3 as many nobles.

Hey, Glaumring gets his wish of city states ;)
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« Reply #2285: March 14, 2013, 04:33:56 PM »
Hey, Glaumring gets his wish of city states ;)

My thought exactly.

Except Glaumring will be expelled from all those lands.
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« Reply #2286: March 14, 2013, 05:10:16 PM »
Or, as demonstrated on Atamara, forced expulsion of prominent nobles, council-reshuffling, and subdivision of a realm can be powerful.

We spin off Itau into FR, Echiur and Koshtlom into a new realm, and leave "Asylon" in Via with about 1/3 as many nobles. Then we force everyone of city-lord or duke-rank or higher to leave the realms, and put 6-8 foreign nobles in one of the two parts of Asylon to keep it under control.

There are many options.


You do realize that Terran is going to get smashed to dust very shortly right?
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« Reply #2287: March 14, 2013, 05:34:04 PM »

You do realize that Terran is going to get smashed to dust very shortly right?

Which means we will have 20 extra nobles with which to colonize Asylon!
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« Reply #2288: March 14, 2013, 05:43:23 PM »
We trading spots!?? Sweet  ;D
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« Reply #2289: March 14, 2013, 05:46:20 PM »
We trading spots!?? Sweet  ;D

Heh– it'd be an interesting rationalization of the continent for sure.
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« Reply #2290: March 14, 2013, 06:42:38 PM »
A mech albilon guildhouse got smashed. ::)

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« Reply #2291: March 14, 2013, 06:51:32 PM »
A mech albilon guildhouse got smashed. ::)

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« Reply #2292: March 14, 2013, 10:08:10 PM »

You do realize that Terran is going to get smashed to dust very shortly right?

Which means we will have 20 extra nobles with which to colonize Asylon!

It will be interesting, if Aurvandil really does "destory the 'Moot" and all of its realms where will all those Nobles go?
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« Reply #2293: March 14, 2013, 10:20:05 PM »
It will be interesting, if Aurvandil really does "destory the 'Moot" and all of its realms where will all those Nobles go?
Whether or not the 'Moot realms survive, I can't say for sure, but I don't see Asylon getting out of this with their current lands. Possibly moving towards Terrans position but probably more south but I don't see Aslyon retaining its current lands. Then if they can get quite a bit of nobles from the 'Moot to join the realm replacing Asylon, they would have a high noble count and could possibly reclaim the land.
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« Reply #2294: March 14, 2013, 10:21:06 PM »
It will be interesting, if Aurvandil really does "destory the 'Moot" and all of its realms where will all those Nobles go?

I guess they probably would move to some of their allies for a while, then come back and re-settle their previous lands.

**Edit** I even offered some of them to join Asylon and remain lords of their regions, but they kept changing their minds back and forth, eventually they chose to remain with Terran, It was a long shot, but it was worth a shot.
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