My quarrel is not that people think advies shouldn't treated as piles of dog !@#$ all the time. But in every realm, there's always a handful of nobles who say advies should be treated as equal to nobles, and they hardly ever get called out for speaking such nonsense. At worst they risk a reprimand, usually they just get away with it without any problems. There have been realms where the rulers themselves spoke such drivel, or where judges have punished nobles for mopping the floor with an advy. I recall an instance on FEI where a judge sent a nasty letter about his advy brother getting assassinated, yelling about how dishonorable it was and wanting compensation.
That's just... wrong.
