Civilization expanding?

[Creed]

Well I would love to stick it to the Zuma and take a few realms with me with the !@#$ hits the fan lol.

[Vellos]

I want to bet that the Zuma currently already have more military forces then those Realms combined right now and that's without them needing to recruit :P Frankly, War against the Zuma is suicide for the Marrocidens, and probably will be swift without much of a resistance. At least we'll have lands to colonize afterwards ;)

This is because we know nothing of them. Maybe they have some constraint on recruitment about which we are ignorant.

Well I would love to stick it to the Zuma and take a few realms with me with the !@#$ hits the fan lol.

I would love to stick it to the Zuma. But I'd prefer to not destroy Terran and the Moot in the process, as it's kind of been the biggest, most successful IG project of any of my characters ever.

[Indirik]

Yeah I understand that but the thing is you are speaking of the Zuma like they are humans but they are not.

The way I understand it, the "Zuma" are a realm of humans ruled/protected by daimons.

Land to them can be totally meaningless.

And you would know that because...?

Unless you have talked to them, interacted with them, and have learned their secrets, any such assumptions you make are nothing more than your personal opinion. And probably wrong.

I think there is a lot of awesome RP that could be done but I think a lot of people are to afraid to endanger their character and realm to the Zumas wraith if all goes bad.

You should be afraid. If their daimon troops are anything like those on BT, then they are insanely powerful. But if you think the potential for RP and !!Fun!! is attractive enough, then go for it. Maybe you'll get them on your side. Or your enemy's side. Whichever. I'm sure we'll all enjoy it.

[Creed]

The way I understand it, the "Zuma" are a realm of humans ruled/protected by daimons.
And you would know that because...?

Unless you have talked to them, interacted with them, and have learned their secrets, any such assumptions you make are nothing more than your personal opinion. And probably wrong.
You should be afraid. If their daimon troops are anything like those on BT, then they are insanely powerful. But if you think the potential for RP and !!Fun!! is attractive enough, then go for it. Maybe you'll get them on your side. Or your enemy's side. Whichever. I'm sure we'll all enjoy it.

What I meant was could sorry came out can. It should have been land to them could be meaningless no one knows. You never know what my character will do but I will say if i do fall i will try my hardest to take the moot with me for kicks.

[Telrunya]

This is because we know nothing of them. Maybe they have some constraint on recruitment about which we are ignorant.

I doubt the Daimons need to do much recruiting really. The Marrocidens don't even have much experience with War and won't have much discipline. Their current forces can stomp us already. The Marrocidens won't be able to raise any kind of resistance. To attack the Zuma, need to start thinking way larger scale to even think about the option and get the surprise attack, and the Marrocidens will take the brunt of the attack in either situation. And then still it's probably still a foolish idea :P It could be fun if the Realms could make them sweat a bit at least though.

[De-Legro]

The way I understand it, the "Zuma" are a realm of humans ruled/protected by daimons.
And you would know that because...?

Unless you have talked to them, interacted with them, and have learned their secrets, any such assumptions you make are nothing more than your personal opinion. And probably wrong.
You should be afraid. If their daimon troops are anything like those on BT, then they are insanely powerful. But if you think the potential for RP and !!Fun!! is attractive enough, then go for it. Maybe you'll get them on your side. Or your enemy's side. Whichever. I'm sure we'll all enjoy it.

Back in the days when I was helping to set up the plans for Asylon we had some interaction with the Zuma. Course things might have changed but back then the actual Diamons where indeed a minority that ruled over the local human tribes. They seemed very protective of these tribes, to the point where we had to earn their trust in order to gain permission to found the realm in Echiur, which apparently had one of their tribes even thought the land wasn't officially claimed by them.

[Vellos]

You never know what my character will do but I will say if i do fall i will try my hardest to take the moot with me for kicks.

And you will get banned from your realm.

[Creed]

And you will get banned from your realm.

Why would I get banned I dont think my realm really cares to much about the moot all the way across the realm?

[Creed]

And you will get banned from your realm.

Why would I get banned I dont think my realm really cares to much about the moot all the way across the Sea?

[Chenier]

This is true.

Once Barca and Asylon are stable, a war against the Zuma by Asylon, Terran, Barca, and D'hara would be tons of fun. But, frankly, given that we have no knowledge of how the Zuma recruit, what their long-term military capacities may be, etc.... no way. If their power were vast, but known, some strategy might be found to fight them. But as they are so unknown, it can't be risked. Even investigating their military power seems unwise, as they might interpret such snooping negatively.

D'Hara is the farest of the three, and I doubt anyone here would want such a war.

Not to mention that they basically represent our only possible motivation to keep on trading once Barca produces enough.

[Chenier]

Why would I get banned I dont think my realm really cares to much about the moot all the way across the Sea?

I don't know what realm you are from, but if from the 'moot, you'll certainly get banned. If from another realm, odds are if the Zuma turn aggressive, the moot will rather side with them than with your realm.

[Vaylon Kenadell]

Does the SA church have any proscriptions against consorting with the daimons? Or, oh, well, let's say, selling food to them, for example?

[Chenier]

Does the SA church have any proscriptions against consorting with the daimons? Or, oh, well, let's say, selling food to them, for example?

Wouldn't bother me. I'm fairly certain that if SA decided to raise any fuss with us over it, we'd have Zuma backing. I'd rather be on the Zuma's side than on SA's, and by a long shot.

[Vaylon Kenadell]

I'd rather be on the Zuma's side than on SA's, and by a long shot.

Bwahahahahaha. Picture someone saying this back in the Middle Ages: "Well, I'd rather be on the Devil's side than on God's."

[Indirik]

I don't know what realm you are from

Creed is from Morek.

He just got kicked out of Sanguis Astroism for things like apostasy, heresy, and all the other usual crimes. :D