New Trade System Feedback

[Tom]

Please post your feedback below. Please try to be constructive - I'm tired of whining and "I hate everything because something has changed from the way it was before" comments. I value positive feedback and constructive criticism. If you think something might be a problem, remain calm and state in neutral an specific words why you think so.

[Naidraug]

Hey Tom,

I was trying to check the new trade system, but I can't find the new tables.

I only see the Markets Reports link but not Granary or warehouse.

I have a char that is a lord in dwilight and a banker in BT.

[Tom]

I was trying to check the new trade system, but I can't find the new tables.

What is it that you are looking for?

[Peri]

As duke currently not in my region I have now access only to the "market reports" for duchy and region which are clearly still empty. Is it right that there will be no way to directly assess the sizes of the stores in the various regions of the duchy anymore?

Also is it intended that when the lord is not in his region he can't see the usual table with the details of consumption/storage etc of his own region?

[egamma]

My banker/lord/trader is missing the 'warehouse report' page that lists how much food each region has, how much they consume, etc.

I do have the MarketsWatch.php page, which seems to be working fine, but it doesn't have any trades listed on it yet. And I'm traveling so I can't see Market.php.

[Peri]

There seem to be problems with messages too. I got the following when reporting a scout report to my whole realm in dwilight

Fatal error: Call to a member function setContact() on a non-object in /var/battlemaster/live/testing/message-write.php on line 464

page is http://battlemaster.org/testing/message-write.php

[Telrunya]

My character was appointed Steward just now, but the 'Command' bar has not appeared. I think I need that to access my options as Steward, right?

Do we have to be in our region now to handle Food?

[egamma]

"appoint steward" page text references "warehouse and trade", that should be changed to "granaries and markets" I think.

[Indirik]

There seem to be problems with messages too. I got the following when reporting a scout report to my whole realm in dwilight

Fatal error: Call to a member function setContact() on a non-object in /var/battlemaster/live/testing/message-write.php on line 464

page is http://battlemaster.org/testing/message-write.php

In addition to this, I also get an error on message-send.php. The page only loads halfway, and the following error appears:

"Fatal error: Call to a member function getId() on a non-object in /var/battlemaster/live/testing/message-send.php on line 131"

[Carna]

Where to begin? According to the announcements, we are to read the latest sys message and ignore the rest.

Food System Upgrade   (1 hour, 26 minutes ago)
message to the lord and knights of Rettleville
Your new granaries have been filled with a total of 0 bushels. This is the 1036 bushels you had stored in your warehouses plus a free 5-day supply of 165 bushels to get you over the initial adaptation phase to the new trade system.

So, I checked my command tab.

Your granaries have 0 bushels stored. This store will last you about 0 more days

My Duke isn't in Rettleville right now, so I haven't had a chance to look at the other things (besides relatively empty Markets Report page). Also, my Guild messaging system's broken. "Could not find a channel to send to" is the message I get when trying to send a message through my Guilds (Barcan Sentinel, Veinsormoot) and religion (VE). I'm fairly sure they were working this morning before I went to work. I also have the option to send messages "to - all / some nobles at the tournament". There is no tournament taking place and I get the same message (Could not find...) as with my Guilds.

For all that, I'm deeply interested to see how the new food arrangements work. Always fun :)

Finton.

[Eduardo Almighty]

Starvation   (2 hours, 16 minutes ago)
personal message
There is starvation in Barrow Peaks, and your men can't find anything to eat. 3 wounded men die from starvation. 2 men fall ill from lack of food.

Starvation   (2 hours, 25 minutes ago)
personal message
There is starvation in Barrow Peaks, and your men can't find anything to eat. 3 wounded men die from starvation. 2 men fall ill from lack of food.

Starvation   (2 hours, 34 minutes ago)
personal message
There is starvation in Barrow Peaks, and your men can't find anything to eat. 2 wounded men die from starvation. 1 men fall ill from lack of food.

Starvation   (2 hours, 37 minutes ago)
personal message
There is starvation in Barrow Peaks, and your men can't find anything to eat. 3 wounded men die from starvation. 3 men fall ill from lack of food.

Starvation   (2 hours, 52 minutes ago)
personal message
There is starvation in Barrow Peaks, and your men can't find anything to eat. 3 wounded men die from starvation. 2 men fall ill from lack of food.

Starvation   (2 hours, 59 minutes ago)
personal message
There is starvation in Barrow Peaks, and your men can't find anything to eat. 3 wounded men die from starvation. 4 men fall ill from lack of food.

Starvation   (3 hours, 7 minutes ago)
personal message
There is starvation in Barrow Peaks, and your men can't find anything to eat. 3 wounded men die from starvation. 6 men fall ill from lack of food.

Starvation   (3 hours, 43 minutes ago)
personal message
There is starvation in Barrow Peaks, and your men can't find anything to eat. 2 wounded men die from starvation. 7 men fall ill from lack of food.

***

In Dwilight. I suspect it have a connection with the changes. They fell like flies

[fodder]

um... i had a knight and lord in same before the change. the knight was also a steward. the knight vacated his estate this morning to check on http://bugs.battlemaster.org/view.php?id=6253 and somehow remained steward (insofar as he could see the warehouse, etc command links)

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after the update, the estateless knight who used to be steward and probably still is, can see most if not all the lord's commands.
clicking on return lordship, it gives the normal screen http://battlemaster.org/testing/StepDown.php?From=Commander  (not going to enter reason and step down!)

was told the knight is not regionlord (or variants of) in the following links
http://battlemaster.org/testing/RegionDesc.php
http://battlemaster.org/testing/Fortify.php
http://battlemaster.org/testing/RepairFort.php
http://battlemaster.org/testing/Disband.php
http://battlemaster.org/testing/RecruitGuards.php   <--- that shouldn't appear for a townsland lord anyway
http://battlemaster.org/testing/Steward.php
http://battlemaster.org/testing/armieslist.php
http://battlemaster.org/testing/ArmySponsor.php

some other links.. but not enough hours to see..

the following seems to do something
http://battlemaster.org/testing/MarketsWatch.php   <- "as lord of avengmil" (which he isn't anyway. at most steward)
http://battlemaster.org/testing/PostBounties.php  <-- that seems to work.. it says "as steward, etc"
http://battlemaster.org/testing/Marketplace.php <--

when trying to put down a buy 100 bushel for 30gold/100 bushel off.. i get this...
"You don't have the required 30 bonds for this offer. Maybe make a lower offer?"
character has 100+gold and no bonds on him

[TragerM]

Question I have (which falls in line with the above, with the noble's troops starving in a region with no food):

I used caravans not only for trade, but to carry excess food "just in case" I was stuck in a starving region, so my troops wouldn't be impacted...

If caravans have gone bye-bye, can something minor be created as paraphrenalia, so a noble can be proactive in protecting their own troops (maybe even to avoid impacting a region's food, because they already have their own)?  If not called a caravan, maybe just call it a "supply wagon"... they won't be able to sell to a region (which seems to be what you want) but they can buy and store food (or heck, even loot food).

Does bring up an interesting idea though... spend 3 hours on "Forage Food" if you want to see if you can get food for yourself, into your supply wagon, but doesn't damage the region's production, and isn't considered a hostile action against the region...?

[Anaris]

There seem to be problems with messages too. I got the following when reporting a scout report to my whole realm in dwilight

Fatal error: Call to a member function setContact() on a non-object in /var/battlemaster/live/testing/message-write.php on line 464

page is http://battlemaster.org/testing/message-write.php

This, and the other messaging errors, should be fixed once Tom pushes rev. 5989 live.

[Tom]

As duke currently not in my region I have now access only to the "market reports" for duchy and region which are clearly still empty. Is it right that there will be no way to directly assess the sizes of the stores in the various regions of the duchy anymore?

Upcoming, will be online very soon.

Also is it intended that when the lord is not in his region he can't see the usual table with the details of consumption/storage etc of his own region?

Please be more specific.