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Re: Sirion vs Westmoor
« Reply #135: August 25, 2012, 02:44:36 AM »
I was under the impression that SoA never really tried. What was the point, after all? Their lands suck, and they were completely ineffective. The only time they ever managed to do anything was when Sirion marched up the peninsula and held their hands to escort them around a few regions.
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« Reply #136: August 25, 2012, 07:10:53 AM »
I was under the impression that SoA never really tried. What was the point, after all? Their lands suck, and they were completely ineffective. The only time they ever managed to do anything was when Sirion marched up the peninsula and held their hands to escort them around a few regions.

As far as I know, SoA never launched any major offensive campaigns against OI. Sure, they attacked Kazan and Stora a few times... But that's because OI was being a pest, not because they were out to kill them.

That being said, OI isn't what it used to be. It is stronger than it was. Granted, I think they would still have to do some land shifting and noble gaining before they could be a middle of the pack realm, but their forces(if organized well) can tip the balance of war now, whereas against Sirion, they were practically a token force waiting to get squashed.

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Re: Sirion vs Westmoor
« Reply #137: August 25, 2012, 10:05:18 PM »
Well we did fight over Stora and we started making ideas of attacking Kalmar
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Re: Sirion vs Westmoor
« Reply #138: August 27, 2012, 02:40:21 AM »
OI is all low income badlands. Their regions are just horrible. If they are going to become a realm with any influence, they need to move inland and abandon that cursed islands.
Maybe OI should seriously consider become mercenary realm like Darka 8)
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Re: Sirion vs Westmoor
« Reply #139: August 28, 2012, 01:44:37 AM »
Maybe OI should seriously consider become mercenary realm like Darka 8)

Darka has like what...five or six times the cs that OI does? And that would be on Darka's worst day and OI's best.

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Re: Sirion vs Westmoor
« Reply #140: August 28, 2012, 03:03:55 AM »
Darka has like what...five or six times the cs that OI does? And that would be on Darka's worst day and OI's best.

A bit over the top, but yes. Darka is significantly stronger(Have a Marshal over there).

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Re: Sirion vs Westmoor
« Reply #141: August 28, 2012, 04:15:48 AM »
Darka started in their humble beginning as well. OI should be able to do the same. Contract with gold, bring in much needed income for OI realm ;)

This Sirion vs Westmoor war looks more like an opportunity to give Marshals and Generals some experience. In prelude to the next big war to come. Wondering what the historians among us will call this war as ::)
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Re: Sirion vs Westmoor
« Reply #142: August 28, 2012, 04:33:36 AM »
Darka started in their humble beginning as well. OI should be able to do the same. Contract with gold, bring in much needed income for OI realm ;)

This Sirion vs Westmoor war looks more like an opportunity to give Marshals and Generals some experience. In prelude to the next big war to come. Wondering what the historians among us will call this war as ::)

Heh. You are spot on. Sirion had a 6 months of peace period and her military became quite inefficient. Westmoor on the other hand, was hardened from fighting Fontan. I thought they would be a good practice target and the war proved I was right :). Never planned on destroying them though many people in Sirion thought I was going to wipe Westmoor out.

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Re: Sirion vs Westmoor
« Reply #143: August 28, 2012, 05:09:46 AM »
Heh. You are spot on. Sirion had a 6 months of peace period and her military became quite inefficient. Westmoor on the other hand, was hardened from fighting Fontan. I thought they would be a good practice target and the war proved I was right :). Never planned on destroying them though many people in Sirion thought I was going to wipe Westmoor out.

Keeping them from claiming former Fontan lands was quite important as well...
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« Reply #144: August 28, 2012, 05:57:04 AM »
Keeping them from claiming former Fontan lands was quite important as well...

Well that was my excuse to start the war. Of course it was important but not as important as making our armies as good as six months prior.

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Re: Sirion vs Westmoor
« Reply #145: August 30, 2012, 11:49:29 PM »
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Re: Sirion vs Westmoor
« Reply #146: August 31, 2012, 09:12:31 PM »
Interesting development.

I have to say Sirion's diplomacy/strength/cunning truly have been in motion since their last major threat. past rulers such a Doc would be proud. Perhaps, some nation will not fall.
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« Reply #147: August 31, 2012, 09:26:22 PM »
Doc was probably one of our best. Meristenzio was really good too.

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Re: Sirion vs Westmoor
« Reply #148: September 21, 2012, 05:44:59 AM »
I never felt that we had it that easy either. I believe that when we had about 50k from five realms against us just before Caligus declared war on Westmoor the only thing that saved our bacon was a timely use of the infiltrator ability to turn signposts which caused a large part of the attacking army to arrive late for the battle.

I know that as general I relied quite heavily on the military strength statistics to know exactly how much forces to keep in the north to defend against the Sultanate, while sending everything else down to Fontan. And that is not really possible anymore. Which is good, although as General you use the intelligence available to you.

Thing is, facing an overwhelming force like that would have spelt the defeat of any other realm on the continent. The fact that Sirion actually won is testament to the supreme cartographic position it inhabits.

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Re: Sirion vs Westmoor
« Reply #149: September 21, 2012, 06:06:18 AM »
Thing is, facing an overwhelming force like that would have spelt the defeat of any other realm on the continent. The fact that Sirion actually won is testament to the supreme cartographic position it inhabits.

It was 50k composed by the forces of 5 realms. Thankfully their coordination was not the best either. Sirion also got close to 35k of force defending, in sentries with their entire archer power dug in. I believe i have that battle in Sermbar saved somewhere...

Sirion's geography was not the mere reason of his success tho. Good strategy applied plus heavy commitment from everyone were the real keys to victory.
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