Power Ranking for EC

[vonGenf]

Without getting into the RL-debate, it would be good for the game if some realms would not be doomed to fail. Make them have at least one or two good regions, so they can start realistically thinking about waging a war against one of their neighbors.

It's not like anyone was forced into the islands and told "This is your realm, now deal with it". It was a planned colony, and they know what was the state of the regions when they got them.

[JPierreD]

It's not like anyone was forced into the islands and told "This is your realm, now deal with it". It was a planned colony, and they know what was the state of the regions when they got them.

And?

[Uzamaki]

Without getting into the RL-debate, it would be good for the game if some realms would not be doomed to fail. Make them have at least one or two good regions, so they can start realistically thinking about waging a war against one of their neighbors.

I hoped that would happen with the region rebalances... But instead, the rich got richer, literally. Nivemus' richest city has less gold than Bescanon(a townsland) and the Mines of Isadril(a mountain region). Our other city is topped by Viseu and Ar Mosul, both townslands, and basically every other city on the continent. And, of course, those three townslands and one mountain region either belong to or are claimed by Caligus and Perdan. And to make matters worse, Nivemus' only townsland is the second poorest townsland on the continent(and poorer than the Mines of Perdan).

Yup. The rich get richer...

[Zakilevo]

There is a rebalance for ya. The map of EC is unbalanced :p all the big cities and rich townslands are focused in the south where Perdan and Isadril are.

[Uzamaki]

There is a rebalance for ya. The map of EC is unbalanced :p all the big cities and rich townslands are focused in the south where Perdan and Isadril are.

Not completely true, but the bigger cities and rich townslands do seems to be much more concentrated in the South. The North does have big rich cities though: Fontan, Oligarch, Sirion. But, so far as townslands go, not many, especially in the far North. Trinbar is pretty rich, Pucallpa pretty poor(and horribly located strategically speaking). Negev and Al Amarah are rich.

But, in the South, they have Isadril, Itorunt, Perdan, and in the far South, a city nearly every few regions that is richer than Ashforth, Kazakh, Slimbar, and Karbala. And then they have the multitude of townslands that the North does not have(and the mines of Isadril).

If the normally high gold producing regions are going to be concentrated so much in the South then the gold concentration needs to be cut a little bit so that the North can compete without having 20+ regions.

[Zakilevo]

I am sure when the dev team adds that new economy feature, badlands will mean something.

[vonGenf]

And?

And, if you create a colony in Sallowtown today, you shouldn't come and complain that your realm is too poor to stand a chance of surviving and that you should be given a few more food-producing regions to stand a chance.

All realms start the same, and their location shapes their destiny. It would be unfair to change the lands after the fact, unfair to those who chose to go somewhere else than this place because they saw the land as too poor.

What's fair is to give an equal chance to everyone by giving them equal information and stability of the underlying facts.

[Zakilevo]

If they do not like their crappy islands they can go somewhere else. The world isn't fair why should the game be when it resembles our world.

[Uzamaki]

And, if you create a colony in Sallowtown today, you shouldn't come and complain that your realm is too poor to stand a chance of surviving and that you should be given a few more food-producing regions to stand a chance.

All realms start the same, and their location shapes their destiny. It would be unfair to change the lands after the fact, unfair to those who chose to go somewhere else than this place because they saw the land as too poor.

What's fair is to give an equal chance to everyone by giving them equal information and stability of the underlying facts.

While this is true, I am not asking that Perdan, Caligus, and the Southern realms be reduced to peasants begging in the streets. There was a region rebalance, and in the region rebalance, things became MORE unbalanced, therefore, a new region rebalance trying to offset that should be installed.

[vonGenf]

While this is true, I am not asking that Perdan, Caligus, and the Southern realms be reduced to peasants begging in the streets. There was a region rebalance, and in the region rebalance, things became MORE unbalanced, therefore, a new region rebalance trying to offset that should be installed.

I'm not entirely certain that is true, but that's a fair argument. My point aimed to counter the idea that OI should be given "one or two good regions".

[Uzamaki]

I'm not entirely certain that is true, but that's a fair argument. My point aimed to counter the idea that OI should be given "one or two good regions".

Ah, yes. Yes, I feel for OI, but I do not think we should just make a couple new regions to help their realm out. While OI does have a hard lot in life so far, I think OI is closer than ever to becoming a realm very relevant in EC politics. We will see how it works out.

[ShadySoulja]

Ah, yes. Yes, I feel for OI, but I do not think we should just make a couple new regions to help their realm out. While OI does have a hard lot in life so far, I think OI is closer than ever to becoming a realm very relevant in EC politics. We will see how it works out.

Please don't tell me your thinking this just because OI holds the Omsk Peninsula. The city and two regions are nice but not enough, the main problem, believe it or not, is not the regions but the lack of nobles. OI could be a strong realm, not strong like Perdan or Sirion but have enough to compete with some of the other realms if there was more nobles around to put into the army.

[De-Legro]

Without getting into the RL-debate, it would be good for the game if some realms would not be doomed to fail. Make them have at least one or two good regions, so they can start realistically thinking about waging a war against one of their neighbors.

Partly such things are on purpose. Having a imbalance of resources generated conflict to control those resources. If you are not strong enough military wise to gain control of them, seek another way. Realms are dynamic, surely we can't expect the map to change every time a realm dies/is created/changes its borders in order to provide someone's concept of a fair playing field?

[Uzamaki]

Please don't tell me your thinking this just because OI holds the Omsk Peninsula. The city and two regions are nice but not enough, the main problem, believe it or not, is not the regions but the lack of nobles. OI could be a strong realm, not strong like Perdan or Sirion but have enough to compete with some of the other realms if there was more nobles around to put into the army.

Yeah, I know. Don't think I haven't taken a look at the nobles per region ratios...

OI just needs a few active players to give OI a spark that would make some players come there. Players who go to realms for reasons other than power. I am not sure how much RP OI does, but I am sure more could be incorporated.

[ShadySoulja]

Yeah, I know. Don't think I haven't taken a look at the nobles per region ratios...

OI just needs a few active players to give OI a spark that would make some players come there. Players who go to realms for reasons other than power. I am not sure how much RP OI does, but I am sure more could be incorporated.

Yes we need a lot more RP, I have tried to spark some but it seems to end in failure mostly.