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Cult of Bloodmoon

Started by Glaumring the Fox, July 02, 2012, 12:44:51 PM

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Sacha

First it's there is no gods, now the gods are everything... You change tune more often than an all-music radio station. Are we really going to have ANOTHER stupid and pointless argument with you at the center?

BardicNerd

Quote from: Indirik on July 02, 2012, 05:04:55 PM
Personally, I question the validity of a religion without any gods on an SMA island.
SA arguably doesn't have gods per se.  Though the exact nature of the Bloodstars is an argument to be had IC.

Not that I'm endorsing this Cult of the Bloodfruit, but it is worth pointing out that Dwilight's largest and most successful religion has elements that are not strictly speaking SMA.  And these elements makes Dwlight a much more interesting place, and add, rather than subtract, from the atmosphere.

Indirik

Quote from: Glaumring on July 02, 2012, 07:36:55 PM... fruit worship and spreading the voice of the gods to the masses. We have a god ,gods, they are nameless , the stars, the lands, dreams are all gods.
Can you please stop telling us what you think we want to hear, and changing it in every message?

QuoteLetter from Ven Dhalgren   (35 minutes ago)
Message sent to all full members of "Dwilight University" (34 recipients)
Student Brom,

indeed your question is a most acceptable one. Unfortunately, I expect you will be disappointed by the simplicity of the Cult, for it surely cannot match your mighty church in matters of ritual and cosmology.

In fact the Cult might not be called a religion, for it does not provide an interpretation of the cosmos and its structures or moral guidance. The only focus of the Cult is the wise and respectful use of the Bloodmoon fruit, for great danger ensures by its unrestrained and careless administration. I am aware much clamor is raised within the Astroist church, some claiming that the Cult is a variant or a schism. Some might believe that the Bloodstars speak to them through the Fruit, some other that the spirits of nature and the elements do, but the Cult does not claim any of this, although it allows freedom of interpretation. We are a spiritual community commitment to the study of the Fruit, in order to gain spiritual insight and knowledge. In fact I espect the Cult, with its narrow focus and scope, not to conflict with other religions in matters of theology.

Should you wish to know more about our rituals, I am afraid they are for now only internal matter, but you are most welcome to visit us in Vakreno Heaps and I will personally take you around the temple and discuss theological matters with you if you wish.

I also assure you the Cult of Bloodmoon is not a schism, a variant or an alternative to Sanguis Astroism, and I expect our faiths to have most fruitful and respectful interactions.

Yours,
Ven Dhalgren of Asylon, Priestess of Cult of Bloodmoon
Dean of Arts of Dwilight University

Your holy prophet doesn't mention any of that. His description is completely different than yours.
If at first you don't succeed, don't take up skydiving.

Sacha

Quote from: BardicNerd on July 02, 2012, 08:07:32 PM
SA arguably doesn't have gods per se.  Though the exact nature of the Bloodstars is an argument to be had IC.

Not that I'm endorsing this Cult of the Bloodfruit, but it is worth pointing out that Dwilight's largest and most successful religion has elements that are not strictly speaking SMA.  And these elements makes Dwlight a much more interesting place, and add, rather than subtract, from the atmosphere.

Well, yes, because SA is  well-thought of, well-written, and well-executed. This Bloodmoon Cult is just crackpots worshipping drugs and everything else is just stuff to be filled out by whoever wants to put down whatever and call it canon.

Glaumring the Fox

Why ? Why do you guys do this to everything I do? Why? Why?
We live lives in beautiful lies...

Anaris

Quote from: Glaumring on July 02, 2012, 09:25:36 PM
Why ? Why do you guys do this to everything I do? Why? Why?

Why don't you do sensible, well-thought-out things?
Timothy Collett

"The only thing you can't trade for your heart's desire...is your heart." "You are what you do.  Choose again, and change." "One of these days, someone's gonna plug you, and you're going to die saying, 'What did I say? What did I say?'"  ~ Miles Naismith Vorkosigan

Glaumring the Fox

I remember one of you guys saying that in the beginning SA was fairly loosely based and slowly the players built up the parts of the faith.

Thats what we are doing. Building the faith over time. Its more fun that way than an already formed faith. We want our players to use imagination and build it. There no more explanations. Deal with it.
We live lives in beautiful lies...

Zakilevo

Glaumring is just a spontaneous guy. ;)

Glaumring the Fox

Which apparently isnt allowed in roleplaying games anymore, maybe i'll write out my roleplays for the year or so so you guys can keep up.  ::)
We live lives in beautiful lies...

Indirik

That's fine. But pick a story and stick with it. And start from something that fits in SMA as a true religion. Worshiping a fruit? A religion that has no gods and worships nothing? A religion who's sole purpose is to control access to the Bloodmoon fruit? A religion where you bring your own gods to the party? It's a variant of SA. It has nothing to do with SA. These are all vastly different things that you have claimed about the Cult at one time or another.
If at first you don't succeed, don't take up skydiving.

Woelfy

Careful indirik, he'll call you a prick again. ;)

I really don't understand the quickness to get to name calling. It detracts from the enjoyment of every interaction, no matter if it's IC or OOC. I don't even have a character near you Glaumring, but your lack of patience and apparent disregard for anything you don't want to hear has convinced me to keep it that way. I just don't get you at all mate.

Ender

Since I mostly avoided religion in Dwilight, I myself wasnt aware of the particulars of SMA religions so I can see why a fruit based supplement to religions might not be entirely right for the theme. It does have potential though.

That aside, are there instances of star worship in medieval Europe? I assumed that mostly died out either pre-Roman or around Roman times.

Gustav Kuriga

I honestly thought that it was the atmosphere, not the beliefs, that mattered.

Perth

Yeah, I don't see much wrong with the Bloodmoon Cult SMA-wise. As long as it is keep serious and not goofy or lolz then I think most religions are fine for the atmosphere.

I am sure there were plenty of weird cults that believed all kinds of stuff around Medieval Europe. Now, figuring out exactly what the Bloodman Cult believes may be a different challenge.
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Vellos

Quote from: Anaris on July 02, 2012, 05:17:57 PM
Yeah...no.

Nobody worships fruit. People have worshiped nature spirits, ancestors, stars, the sun and moon, and Gods in various forms, but I really seriously doubt that anyone in the history of the world has ever worshipped a fruit.

That doesn't mean they haven't used hallucinogenic and other naturally-occurring psychotropic substances in religious rituals and such. That happened all the time. But that doesn't in any way, shape or form mean that they're worshipping the LSD, peyote, or opium.

I didn't read the whole thread.

But would Dunkontology be a good precedent here? Didn't they worship donuts or something?
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