Yeah, but still... I have been on multiplayer "browsergames" since ~1998. But somehow these more serious rpg games have been hidden from me 
So i have been playing pretty much strategy games.
Neither Cantr or FTO showed up on any of the browser game review sites I regularly check. Both did come up on a german browser game top list (germans make some of the best browser games and alot of the best ones haven't been translated to english) , but neither appeared on any of the more popular lists. Originally I came across FTO via people playing this game
http://www.havenandhearth.com/portal/
