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Started by Tom, September 24, 2012, 08:19:02 PM

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egamma

Names related to regions (such as Springdale) are okay.

Zakilevo

Quote from: JPierreD on October 05, 2012, 04:59:37 AM
I guess Perth summed it up quite nicely. The links are all to explain the names and reasons. If in doubt with any of them, please ask.

Just like the Spring, White and Pirate Coasts? I'd prefer a different name, like the Order's Coast (in reference to old Morek Order), or even Star Coast.

Could work as the Wild Coast then, as together with the Kraken Coast these two have been the last ones to be settled. Or maybe another reference to that. Boiling Sea makes no sense right now.

Ok... I kinda like the name, though the reasons seems a little bit strange.

Wasn't it still standing realms?

He said using names of founding realms are okay but not others since realms come and go.

Tom

Realms come and go which is why we should in general avoid them. There are, of course, reasonable exceptions (Sunken Enweil on BT, because quite frankly that sea zone pretty much covers where Enweil used to be).

Someone sort out the mess here, please. If there is a real, established, IC actually being used name, then I will prefer that. If someone just thinks a different name fits better, let me know and I'll consider it. But I want to know the difference. Have people in game actually been calling that sea zone by a different name already or not?


JPierreD

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No, don't think so. There are plenty of names for landmasses, in where players where, but very little for bodies of water.

My idea would be to name the sea coasts making references to/honoring some historical realms that where there.
To explain a little better:
Aquilegia is a flower known for its spurred petals. Hence the Spurred Coast in where the Aquilegian theocracy was (in Flowrestown).
In where the Sea of Silence is we curiously had Melodia before. I think the bird in their banner is a nightingale, but could be wrong. So: Nightingale Sea.
Gelene was known as the Emerald of the North for the Everguardians. So: Channel of Gelene = Emerald Channel. This also works with Nifelheim being known as the Jewel of the North by the Summerdalians.
The Gold Coast is repeating a color-naming pattern that is, to be honest, a little overused. While it makes sense for it includes Golden Farrow I'd change it to Griffin Coast, the symbol of the now deceased Caerwyn, which first settled it.
The Northern Passage to Storms Passage is only natural, since it borders the Storms End and the Storms Keep, though it could also work as the Summer Passage in combination to the Spring Passage (Springdale, Summerdale).
And while the Spring Coast makes sense the area is known as the Dalian Expanse, and its inhabitants the Dalians. When Summerdale fell and many of its nobles fled to Luria Nova they brought south their culture, and they are still known as "Dalians". Hence Dalian Coast.
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pcw27

I see the option to travel appears to be up, which is odd because my city doesn't have a harbour. Is this element just incomplete?

Also the 100 gold embarkation fee, is that a one time thing or do I pay each time I cross a new sea zone?

Indirik

You can embark without a harbor, but if you have a harbor, the price goes down considerably. The fee is a one-time cost that you pay when you switch from land to sea.
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Kellaine

That is good to know.

What about that island just north of Dhara islands, it should be made into a rural region once the sea routes go active.  It would be highly sought after as a strategic region for launching attacks from the sea.  I believe that it would add to the game play.
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Indirik

As far as I know, we are not planning on adding any new regions at this time. However, I think the new sea travel system and region borders system would probably make this much easier than it used to be. Maybe eventually it will get added. I agree that it could be a strategic location, though.
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Kellaine

Quote from: Kellaine on October 05, 2012, 06:10:35 PM
That is good to know.

What about that island just north of Dhara islands, it should be made into a rural region once the sea routes go active.  It would be highly sought after as a strategic region for launching attacks from the sea.  I believe that it would add to the game play.

And name it Tortuga and make it a stronghold once used by pirates or something
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Kellaine

Quote from: Indirik on October 05, 2012, 06:11:57 PM
As far as I know, we are not planning on adding any new regions at this time. However, I think the new sea travel system and region borders system would probably make this much easier than it used to be. Maybe eventually it will get added. I agree that it could be a strategic location, though.

OK well it is a good idea anyway
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egamma

Quote from: JPierreD on October 05, 2012, 02:24:03 PM
No, don't think so. There are plenty of names for landmasses, in where players where, but very little for bodies of water.

My idea would be to name the sea coasts making references to/honoring some historical realms that where there.
To explain a little better:
Aquilegia is a flower known for its spurred petals. Hence the Spurred Coast in where the Aquilegian theocracy was (in Flowrestown).
In where the Sea of Silence is we curiously had Melodia before. I think the bird in their banner is a nightingale, but could be wrong. So: Nightingale Sea.
Gelene was known as the Emerald of the North for the Everguardians. So: Channel of Gelene = Emerald Channel. This also works with Nifelheim being known as the Jewel of the North by the Summerdalians.
The Gold Coast is repeating a color-naming pattern that is, to be honest, a little overused. While it makes sense for it includes Golden Farrow I'd change it to Griffin Coast, the symbol of the now deceased Caerwyn, which first settled it.

Then I don't support any of these, they go against the "named for realms" prohibition. If you have a wiki page where an RP actually names the sea adjacent to a region, we can use that.

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The Northern Passage to Storms Passage is only natural, since it borders the Storms End and the Storms Keep, though it could also work as the Summer Passage in combination to the Spring Passage (Springdale, Summerdale).
And while the Spring Coast makes sense the area is known as the Dalian Expanse, and its inhabitants the Dalians. When Summerdale fell and many of its nobles fled to Luria Nova they brought south their culture, and they are still known as "Dalians". Hence Dalian Coast.

Maybe.

Penchant

Does the route finder include sea zones? I mean the use of them, not nessacarily the route finder telling you the fastest way to them. It would be nice to know that taking the sea is faster in less than obvious cases.
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Chenier

Quote from: Indirik on October 05, 2012, 06:11:57 PM
As far as I know, we are not planning on adding any new regions at this time. However, I think the new sea travel system and region borders system would probably make this much easier than it used to be. Maybe eventually it will get added. I agree that it could be a strategic location, though.

As long as it isn't a tourist trap. If it's made a real region, then it should be TOable, and should be a (very small) townsland (which is required for a harbor, right?) (or stronghold).

We don't want people getting stranded on a tiny one-region isle...
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Charles

Townslands can build harbours, so a small town would be sufficient.

Chenier

Quote from: Charles on October 10, 2012, 06:11:37 AM
Townslands can build harbours, so a small town would be sufficient.

To think of it a harbor wouldn't be necessary... as long as ships can be paid in bonds.

Still gotta consider newbies that don't pick up estates and then go strand themselves on islands. It'd be bad with the islands we already have, not to mention these tiny ones...
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