Am I the only one who sees leet when you guys use 1337 over and over?
Nope.
Not that I mind the historical talks and agree it is technically still on-topic, I'm pretty sure we have a forum for just that. Would a mod mind moving the historical stuff to "Background?" It's getting away from the point I was interested in, specifically how people are embracing or rejecting the duke/margrave change, not how accurate it is.
Cool stuff, though.