Southern War of Nobility (Civil war in Madina)

[Vellos]

Bluntly put Madina with 2400gp is barely able to rebuild our armies quickly, whereas Aurvandil has bested our military strength two or three times with only 1600gp income.

Or, there are Madinans wasting gold by hording, buffing family accounts, or some other use.

Or, Aurvandil has found a few units with optimal gold/CS ratios and repeatedly uses those RCs.

Or, they recruit more, smaller units rather than fewer, larger units, thereby optimizing CS.

The idea that realm income will necessary translate into CS is just silly. Plus, the income listed IG is an estimate. They could be running higher average tax rates than Madina, so their income may be understated.

[Nathan]

Plus, the income listed IG is an estimate. They could be running higher average tax rates than Madina, so their income may be understated.

Being a smaller realm, this is very likely. I think someone (not Tom, but one of the others) mentioned that smaller realms do have advantages in terms of tax rates and other things.

[Bedwyr]

I mentioned it.  Smaller the realm is, the higher taxes you can run without running into nasty penalties.  It's one of the biggest factors in making small realms viable.

[dustole]

I like smaller realms.  Single Duchy realms are optimal.  Lower recruitment costs and higher tax rates.  Plus they are usually easier to maintain.

[Vellos]

I like smaller realms.  Single Duchy realms are optimal.  Lower recruitment costs and higher tax rates.  Plus they are usually easier to maintain.

Indeed.

On that basis, it seems quite plausible that Aurvandil is simply more efficiently run than Madina, even discounting any unfair play.

Though Madina should be bringing in a few hundred gold in trade revenues that should more than compensate for that gap.

[Galvez]

But the big question, will it be enough to successfully siege the walls of Candiels.  *Hoping it ain't*

[Nathan]

But the big question, will it be enough to successfully siege the walls of Candiels.  *Hoping it ain't*

It probably isn't.

We still actually need siege engines too, those are a pain in the arse. They have to come from Madina city since The Tower can't build the workshop for them >.<

Rather deadlocked at the moment. Rebels can't breach The Tower, we don't have siege engines to breach Candiels.

[Nosferatus]

Rebels can't breach The Tower, we don't have siege engines to breach Candiels.

But we HAVE thousands of barrels of rum...

[Indirik]

Rather deadlocked at the moment. Rebels can't breach The Tower, we don't have siege engines to breach Candiels.

SE's? Srsly, that's what's holding you back? Build a siege workshop, wait a few days, then attack!

[Vellos]

Or build a Demolitions thingy.

[Nathan]

SE's? Srsly, that's what's holding you back? Build a siege workshop, wait a few days, then attack!

Madina produces very little gold, I think. Not thinking the rebels would secede, we forced Sage out of Madina's ducal seat (long story short, we didn't like him) by making it rebel. Now we can't build SE there until the city is repaired a little more - someone could probably just lend Abbot the gold, but Madina is a funny place like that

[Shizzle]

but Madina is a funny place like that

Read inefficient; That's why a realm half your size is holding your throat

[Nosferatus]

Read inefficient; That's why a realm half your size is holding your throat

Well i think emergency act is working out fine.
Everything is running pretty smoothly.

When there is no emergency however, there isn't even a concept of a realm, let alone efficiency.

[Nathan]

In war time, the security of the realm should take precedence over private profit.

Caerwynians: if they're all like Helm Altenahr then I think Halicos is going to have a heart attack and/or want to shoo them out of Madina and into their own Candiels based realm as soon as possible

[Phellan]

Caerwynians: if they're all like Helm Altenahr then I think Halicos is going to have a heart attack and/or want to shoo them out of Madina and into their own Candiels based realm as soon as possible

Vallyn is going to either have a heart attack himself, or start stabbing people if they keep making him write all these nice happy "lets-all-play-nice-and-get-along" letters