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Started by Indirik, January 08, 2013, 04:12:43 PM

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Indirik

Good luck with that.
If at first you don't succeed, don't take up skydiving.

Draco Tanos

Quote from: Noldorin on February 19, 2013, 12:53:49 PM
So, Caelum is using scrolls in Sint and Melhed is trying to use scrolls in Nothoi... are thalmarkin the only ones trying them at home? :)

As well... this ought to spice up the situation a but... Victus doesnt like hemaism very much, Sint and Nothoi does... while again OG does not. This might be possible to cause some fun, while Melhed runs out of excuses for ignoring Thalmarkins taunts. If only there was a western war I hope Melhed would accept a 1-1 war... unless someone where to steal the fun :p

QuoteReport from Henzo Kuriga   (30 minutes ago)
You may have heard of a scroll being used in the Sintian region of Gihalcert, Emperor Micheal. If you have not, I wish that it be known that yes, I did use such a scroll of summoning. However, it was at the previous ruler's command, enforced by the judge by threat of banishment and execution if I were to be brought in front of him again without having used the scroll. Soon you will see yet another scroll be used, again inside Sintian lands. It will be near the Nothoi border, as Nothoi has turned our realm into a puppet. The judge will deny any fault of the realm and use me as a scapegoat, claiming I am a isolated rogue noble. That is a lie, merely buying time as the second noble prepares to use his scroll, Nothoi slowly building up their forces and preparing to invade Sint. I highly doubt they would do such treachery alone, but beyond what I have told you, I can only hazard wild guesses, since much of the plans are on a need to know basis.

Sir Henzo Kuriga
Baron of Hcallow
Would possibly be interesting if Henzo wasn't trying to pin it on others. 

Quote from: Indirik on February 19, 2013, 02:46:03 PM
Hmm... prepare to be bored. :(

It's pronounced "do your jobs".  Prepare to do your jobs.

Quote from: Vellos on February 19, 2013, 04:24:44 PM
I could always challenge him to a death duel...
"So you are challenging an unarmed priest to a duel to the death?  How honorable  and brave of you.  Did you stomp in the head of a chained up puppy before issuing the challenge too?  Was that before or after its teeth were removed so it could not bite your heels?"

Naidraug

Quote from: Draco Tanos on February 19, 2013, 06:06:18 PM
Would possibly be interesting if Henzo wasn't trying to pin it on others. 

Yes it would. I really don't see how this would also cause war between Nothoi and Sint, besides, if we had made Caelum a puppet realm Victus would not have been re-elected, and things there would be a lot more different.
Stryfe Family: Tristan - Heorot/ Scherzer - Nothoi / Finan - Caelum / Arya - Farronite Republic

Draco Tanos

Now, now.  Things don't always go to plans in puppet realms. ;P

Though I'd have viewed "the previous ruler" more as a potential puppet for Riombara than Sint or Nothoi.

Noldorin

I would be surprised if Fleugs even knew there was problems in caelum :)
Everything in my own immediate experience supports my deep belief that I am the absolute center of the universe, the realest, most vivid and important person in existence.

Naidraug

Nah if it were to make it a puppet, Scherzer would not do it behind everyone's back, and would be more firm on everything. He is more political than Finan, but not that subtle.

After trying to prevent OG to make Caelum into a puppet, he would never try to do that for himself. His honor means too much for him to betray those he considers friends.

Idk, the previous ruler could have been puppet from anyone, it was the first ruler of the player, and he did asked for opinion and feedback a lot, with the right push, any realm could have taken control.
Stryfe Family: Tristan - Heorot/ Scherzer - Nothoi / Finan - Caelum / Arya - Farronite Republic

Indirik

QuoteIt's pronounced "do your jobs". Prepare to do your jobs.
Ther's this false dichotomy that a lot of people try to paint that nobles can't both write letters or disagree with the leaders, while still doing their jobs. "Stop talking, and concentrate on repairing the realm!" That's patently ridiculous. I think (pardon me if I'm mis-remembering, Gustav) Henzo was pushing this position pretty hard during the protests. It takes maybe a minute or two to read messages and click the Hold Court button, and then what? If we held to that philosophy, the realm would be in exactly the same condition it is now, but nearly dead from a boring play style.

During the entire episode, no one shirked their duty, or failed to do their jobs. Everything continued to get done, with the exception of one minor episode of Heen going hungry, which was immediately corrected.

As for the use of the scroll... lame. Sorry, Gustav, but where the hell did that come from? At the very least, that is so not believable as to be ridiculous.
If at first you don't succeed, don't take up skydiving.

Indirik

Quote"So you are challenging an unarmed priest to a duel to the death?"
That's why they have champions to duel for them. Simply being a priest is not a perfect shield from having to conduct yourself with noble behavior. They still have to answer for their words and actions.
If at first you don't succeed, don't take up skydiving.

Geronus

Quote from: Indirik on February 19, 2013, 02:46:03 PM
Hmm... prepare to be bored. :(

I don't know, seems like there's some intrigue going on. Besides, we'll see how long Victus can keep the peace  :) I don't know if that character is constitutionally able to suffer being challenged, so we'll see what happens the first time someone questions something he does.

If he surprises me then honestly things won't necessarily be much different than they would have been with Tsumiki on the throne. Either way, we've got a long road ahead of us while our regions slowly become productive enough to support infrastructure, and then we have to build said infrastructure, and then, maybe, we might actually be ready to fight something.

Vellos

Quote from: Draco Tanos on February 19, 2013, 06:06:18 PM
Would possibly be interesting if Henzo wasn't trying to pin it on others. 

It's pronounced "do your jobs".  Prepare to do your jobs.
"So you are challenging an unarmed priest to a duel to the death?  How honorable  and brave of you.  Did you stomp in the head of a chained up puppy before issuing the challenge too?  Was that before or after its teeth were removed so it could not bite your heels?"

You make me sad.
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Draco Tanos

Quote from: Vellos on February 19, 2013, 07:35:27 PM
You make me sad.
If I could be bothered, I'd post a picture of Angry/Grumpy Cat saying "Good". =P

Eduardo Almighty

#446
QuoteThis might be possible to cause some fun, while Melhed runs out of excuses for ignoring Thalmarkins taunts. If only there was a western war I hope Melhed would accept a 1-1 war

Out of excuses? We're not giving excuses, just the truth  ;)

So far I haven't seen anything in the letters from Thalmarkin that can be considered a valid point beyond a very weak attempt with very weak points of someone who wants to fight but don't have excuses nor legitimate reasons to march. My experience in EC now tells me that any creative nonsense may be a reason, but I prefer those reasons really valid. And accuse Melhed of being a Theocracy while all the northern realms have Councils filled with influential religious people is not even reasonable to be valid. Honestly, you are using the wrong kind of taunt with Yeux.

I don't have nothing against 1-1 war, I just doubt it will happen in advantage of Melhed since we don't have allies to call if the situation gets ugly; different than Thalmarkin. Also, Yeux is enjoying his first month as King and trying to fix everything.

You can start a northern war without us, don't worry. You will always have Caelum, lol.
Now with the Skovgaard Family... and it's gone.
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Gustav Kuriga

Quote from: Draco Tanos on February 19, 2013, 06:06:18 PM
Would possibly be interesting if Henzo wasn't trying to pin it on others. 

It's pronounced "do your jobs".  Prepare to do your jobs.
"So you are challenging an unarmed priest to a duel to the death?  How honorable  and brave of you.  Did you stomp in the head of a chained up puppy before issuing the challenge too?  Was that before or after its teeth were removed so it could not bite your heels?"

Excuse me, but I would prefer if you didn't post private IC messages in the forums. You might not take advantage of OOC knowledge, but there's probably someone who will. Please remove the letter from the post in question.

Gustav Kuriga

Quote from: Indirik on February 19, 2013, 06:52:16 PM
Ther's this false dichotomy that a lot of people try to paint that nobles can't both write letters or disagree with the leaders, while still doing their jobs. "Stop talking, and concentrate on repairing the realm!" That's patently ridiculous. I think (pardon me if I'm mis-remembering, Gustav) Henzo was pushing this position pretty hard during the protests. It takes maybe a minute or two to read messages and click the Hold Court button, and then what? If we held to that philosophy, the realm would be in exactly the same condition it is now, but nearly dead from a boring play style.

During the entire episode, no one shirked their duty, or failed to do their jobs. Everything continued to get done, with the exception of one minor episode of Heen going hungry, which was immediately corrected.

As for the use of the scroll... lame. Sorry, Gustav, but where the hell did that come from? At the very least, that is so not believable as to be ridiculous.

The top part is Henzo's opinion, not my own Indirik. What he believes and I believe are two different things. I OOC know that you can just read the messages and click the hold court button to do your job as lord. Henzo doesn't know about any "hold court button", but he does know that ICly, holding court means you take several HOURS out of your day to listen to the problems of others and cast judgement upon said issues.

Draco Tanos

Err.  No.  It is already being shared with portions of the realm and will be shared with other rulers soon enough.  Everyone will know of the letter soon.

Though I will certainly agree with your interpretation of them doing their jobs.  People seem to ignore that hour usage isn't ICly instant.