The Future of Atamara (Post-Great Atamaran War)

[lechim-michel]

can we not make a kind of invasion like the huns did with the Roman Empire? just add some mechanics and new codes to give nobles the chance to become tribes which can not hold land. they could recruit in what ever region and these troops are free from weakly payments and cheap to recruit but very weak. They will loot the entire Island and when it is all destroyed the tribe has nothing to feed on so realms will rise again and we got the circle running. We only need to give the tribe member a regular fee like adventures have 2-4 gold a weak?

We need to find a way to make the Island destroy there most powerful and rich realms to give the small ones a chance to grow and to be destroyed when it is there turn.

[Dante Silverfire]

95% of players wants power, who cares about 5%? 5% is the loud minority here, unfortunately.

This is the worst made up statistic ever.

Here's a more realistic outlook:

75% of players just want to play the game as a knight or a lord and fight other realms. 25% of the players care about progressing and being power hungry. 90% of those 25% just want to keep the power and not do anything for the fun of the other 75% once they get it. Its the 5% of the 25% that will make things more fun.

[Penchant]

This is the worst made up statistic ever.

Here's a more realistic outlook:

75% of players just want to play the game as a knight or a lord and fight other realms. 25% of the players care about progressing and being power hungry. 90% of those 25% just want to keep the power and not do anything for the fun of the other 75% once they get it. Its the 5% of the 25% that will make things more fun.

To be fair, its an extremely flawed idea that letting the big guy win will just result in infighting because of the same reason now, it will still end being gangbangs unless you spend a lot of time on diplomacy which means peace for awhile. Medieval nobles weren't just like !@#$ the realm and all the power I hold, let's go attack a realm that will result in the destruction of my realm.

[Dante Silverfire]

To be fair, its an extremely flawed idea that letting the big guy win will just result in infighting because of the same reason now, it will still end being gangbangs unless you spend a lot of time on diplomacy which means peace for awhile. Medieval nobles weren't just like !@#$ the realm and all the power I hold, let's go attack a realm that will result in the destruction of my realm.

You're right, they made up reasons to go fight other nations, or fought wistfully in the name of religion, or because so and so insulted your cousin, and didn't marry your sister the Queen of the other nation.

[Penchant]

You're right, they made up reasons to go fight other nations, or fought wistfully in the name of religion, or because so and so insulted your cousin, and didn't marry your sister the Queen of the other nation.

But they didn't fight suicides either. I could be wrong but I am pretty sure random little nations didn't go !@#$ with the HRE. They might have fought a plenty but they weren't idiots about it, AFAIK.

[Dante Silverfire]

But they didn't fight suicides either. I could be wrong but I am pretty sure random little nations didn't go !@#$ with the HRE. They might have fought a plenty but they weren't idiots about it, AFAIK.

There is a difference between the city state of Venice not declaring war on the HRE, and France not going to war with England because it wasn't a "sure thing."

[Penchant]

There is a difference between the city state of Venice not declaring war on the HRE, and France not going to war with England because it wasn't a "sure thing."

I am referring to people's idea that letting CE win is the best idea for more conflict, not rulers not going to war in general.

[Vellos]

This is the worst made up statistic ever.

Here's a more realistic outlook:

75% of players just want to play the game as a knight or a lord and fight other realms. 25% of the players care about progressing and being power hungry. 90% of those 25% just want to keep the power and not do anything for the fun of the other 75% once they get it. Its the 5% of the 25% that will make things more fun.

THE 1%!!!!!!

They've been called job-creators and fat cats... but now we know... they're FUN-CREATORS!

[Uzamaki]

THE 1%!!!!!!

They've been called job-creators and fat cats... but now we know... they're FUN-CREATORS!

And right now we occupy Boring Street...

[GoldPanda]

Take Strombran for example, how many Carelians you think joined Strombran……NONE! The Empire had to send 15 of their nobles south to take care of this land; that is the way to get an Empire weak. You can’t conquer Atamara with just 150 characters (CE+Tara+Tallerium).

2011-05-07      Dielo      Joined the realm of Carelia
2012-08-08      Dielo      Joined the realm of Strombran.

2011-05-13      Guimoiun      Joined the realm of Carelia
2012-02-01      Guimoiun      Joined the realm of Strombran

2010-12-24      James Stuart      Began his career in Carelia.
2012-03-17      James Stuart      Joined the realm of Strombran

You know that we can look at family histories, right? 

[Uzamaki]

2011-05-07      Dielo      Joined the realm of Carelia
2012-08-08      Dielo      Joined the realm of Strombran.

2011-05-13      Guimoiun      Joined the realm of Carelia
2012-02-01      Guimoiun      Joined the realm of Strombran

2010-12-24      James Stuart      Began his career in Carelia.
2012-03-17      James Stuart      Joined the realm of Strombran

You know that we can look at family histories, right? 

Shhhh. 3 is the same thing as none in Battlemaster.

[Lavigna]

2011-05-07      Dielo      Joined the realm of Carelia
2012-08-08      Dielo      Joined the realm of Strombran.

Dielo doesn't count! he is a goat lover! it is weird already that he joined Carelia

[Sonya]

2011-05-07      Dielo      Joined the realm of Carelia
2012-08-08      Dielo      Joined the realm of Strombran.

2011-05-13      Guimoiun      Joined the realm of Carelia
2012-02-01      Guimoiun      Joined the realm of Strombran

2010-12-24      James Stuart      Began his career in Carelia.
2012-03-17      James Stuart      Joined the realm of Strombran

You know that we can look at family histories, right? 

Please Spare me the Drama:

Dielo was asked to be banned by the treaty with the Empire, he joined Strombran because they wanted nobles, his young brother Jovyl stayed on Carelia, the other names doesnt know them must have been some one's alt to spy during the war, that happends a lot, so smart search doesnt work on this.

I was refering to CORE realm members turning their backs to their own realm, not one of two new players/spy who seek fun battles.

Ohh look:

James Stuart 33 years Honor: 6 prestige: 17 Knight

An idle character

Guimoiun Zhuravlev - Atamara - Strombran - Courtier/Diplomat - Chancellor of the Interior, Viscount
Alexander Zhuravlev - Atamara - Cagilan Empire - Warrior/Cavalier - Viscount

................. 

[Vellos]

the other names doesnt know them must have been some one's alt to spy during the war, that happends a lot, so smart search doesnt work on this.

You should take a step back and rethink what you just said.

[Solari]

Not quoting anyone because several people have made good points. The key to fun is team play. The duchy is the most immediate unit. Then the realm. Then everyone else. That is the secret to fun in BattleMaster. For everyone.