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Re: 101 Ways to Destabalize the Northern Astroist Federation
« Reply #60: May 23, 2013, 09:54:58 PM »
Quote from: Gustav Kuriga on May 21, 2013, 08:17:28 AM
I have never in all my life seen someone so completely in denial...

How so?

Orthodox Astroism was left pretty much alone was it not? Other then a token declaration that it was "evil" the only one to attack it was Iashalur using a single infiltrator.

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Re: 101 Ways to Destabalize the Northern Astroist Federation
« Reply #61: May 23, 2013, 09:56:12 PM »
Quote from: pcw27 on May 23, 2013, 09:54:58 PM
How so?

Orthodox Astroism was left pretty much alone was it not? Other then a token declaration that it was "evil" the only one to attack it was Iashalur using a single infiltrator.

Yeah, and trying to reconquer our old capital brings a freaking Crusade. WTF?
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Re: 101 Ways to Destabalize the Northern Astroist Federation
« Reply #62: May 23, 2013, 10:03:36 PM »
Quote from: Perth on May 23, 2013, 09:56:12 PM
Yeah, and trying to reconquer our old capital brings a freaking Crusade. WTF?

Well your old capital is now an independent theocracy which the charter specifically obligates us to defend.

The "but it's not a theocracy yet" argument doesn't even apply anymore.

Don't get my wrong I've always thought Aurvandil is crusade worthy this whole time but it seems the logistics mess it up.
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Re: 101 Ways to Destabalize the Northern Astroist Federation
« Reply #63: May 23, 2013, 10:06:07 PM »
Quote from: pcw27 on May 23, 2013, 09:54:58 PM
Orthodox Astroism was left pretty much alone was it not? Other then a token declaration that it was "evil" the only one to attack it was Iashalur using a single infiltrator.
Astrum sent several expeditions south. One or two sat in Terran for a while then came home. One went farther and deserted. And another managed to actually take a region in Falkirk lands, then got attacked by Fissoan troops, and deserted

Iashalur was the only realm that hadn't already acknowledged the futility of sending troops south to fight Aurvandil, or damage OA in any way. There was simply nothing that we could do.
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Re: 101 Ways to Destabalize the Northern Astroist Federation
« Reply #64: May 23, 2013, 10:17:51 PM »
Quote from: Indirik on May 23, 2013, 10:06:07 PM
Astrum sent several expeditions south. One or two sat in Terran for a while then came home. One went farther and deserted. And another managed to actually take a region in Falkirk lands, then got attacked by Fissoan troops, and deserted

Iashalur was the only realm that hadn't already acknowledged the futility of sending troops south to fight Aurvandil, or damage OA in any way. There was simply nothing that we could do.

Well there was but it wasn't very exciting. We could have shifted troops from one realm to the other like the Atamara Triumvirate used to do. Eg. Farronite/Kabrinskia devotes most of its troops to the front, Astrum devotes equal troops to defending Farronite lands while their army is away and Iashalur devotes equal troops to defending Astrum.

A totally functional strategy, Caligan, Tara and Caerlia used to do it all the time, it's just not much fun for Astrum and Iashalur.

For the record we had acknowledged that it was useless. We were doing one last token expedition when the rebellion started.
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Re: 101 Ways to Destabalize the Northern Astroist Federation
« Reply #65: May 24, 2013, 01:46:27 AM »
Quote from: pcw27 on May 23, 2013, 10:17:51 PM
Well there was but it wasn't very exciting. We could have shifted troops from one realm to the other like the Atamara Triumvirate used to do. Eg. Farronite/Kabrinskia devotes most of its troops to the front, Astrum devotes equal troops to defending Farronite lands while their army is away and Iashalur devotes equal troops to defending Astrum.

A totally functional strategy, Caligan, Tara and Caerlia used to do it all the time, it's just not much fun for Astrum and Iashalur.

For the record we had acknowledged that it was useless. We were doing one last token expedition when the rebellion started.

Golden Farrow didn't need Astrum defending their lands... a single troop leader with a large archer unit could have cleared all monsters forever with no losses.

GF has a weak army anyway. At best it could have sent 10,000 CS to help out, which with a two week refit is basically useless.
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Re: 101 Ways to Destabalize the Northern Astroist Federation
« Reply #66: May 24, 2013, 02:16:04 AM »
Quote from: pcw27 on May 23, 2013, 10:03:36 PM
Well your old capital is now an independent theocracy which the charter specifically obligates us to defend.

Yeah. Now.

Also, from the sound of it you all worship the goddam charter more than you worship your stars. Are you theocracies or are you the flipping United Nations?
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Re: 101 Ways to Destabalize the Northern Astroist Federation
« Reply #67: May 24, 2013, 02:16:10 AM »
10,000 cs is never useless.
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Re: 101 Ways to Destabalize the Northern Astroist Federation
« Reply #68: May 24, 2013, 03:12:41 AM »
Quote from: Perth on May 24, 2013, 02:16:04 AM
Yeah. Now.

Also, from the sound of it you all worship the goddam charter more than you worship your stars. Are you theocracies or are you the flipping United Nations?

This.
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Re: 101 Ways to Destabalize the Northern Astroist Federation
« Reply #69: May 24, 2013, 03:17:37 AM »
Quote from: Perth on May 24, 2013, 02:16:04 AM
Yeah. Now.

Also, from the sound of it you all worship the goddam charter more than you worship your stars. Are you theocracies or are you the flipping United Nations?

Mess with the church and the church messes with you.
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Re: 101 Ways to Destabalize the Northern Astroist Federation
« Reply #70: May 24, 2013, 03:44:48 AM »
There will be people in every religion who are very concerned with the letter of Church law, rather than the spirit of the faith.

Look at the Pharisees.
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Re: 101 Ways to Destabalize the Northern Astroist Federation
« Reply #71: May 24, 2013, 04:21:41 AM »
I am the law!!!  8)
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Re: 101 Ways to Destabalize the Northern Astroist Federation
« Reply #72: May 24, 2013, 05:38:53 AM »
Quote from: Perth on May 23, 2013, 09:56:12 PM
Yeah, and trying to reconquer our old capital brings a freaking Crusade. WTF?
New Light of the Maddening, who is the one who decides crusades. Rabisu is the old one while Medugnatos is the new one who I most certainly spelled wrong.
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Re: 101 Ways to Destabalize the Northern Astroist Federation
« Reply #73: May 24, 2013, 07:05:42 AM »
Quote from: Anaris on May 24, 2013, 03:44:48 AM
There will be people in every religion who are very concerned with the letter of Church law, rather than the spirit of the faith.

Look at the Pharisees.

We must preserve the secular power of the church in order to ensure the right and true order of the world.
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Re: 101 Ways to Destabalize the Northern Astroist Federation
« Reply #74: May 25, 2013, 04:45:26 AM »
Quote from: Perth on May 24, 2013, 02:16:04 AM
Yeah. Now.

Also, from the sound of it you all worship the goddam charter more than you worship your stars. Are you theocracies or are you the flipping United Nations?

The Catholic Church,

that is all.

Quote from: Kwanstein on May 24, 2013, 01:46:27 AM
Golden Farrow didn't need Astrum defending their lands... a single troop leader with a large archer unit could have cleared all monsters forever with no losses.

GF has a weak army anyway. At best it could have sent 10,000 CS to help out, which with a two week refit is basically useless.

Fine get D'Hara and Terran into the mix then.
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