Aurvandil

[Lanyon]

I don't leave because I have no where to go and I still think there's a story to be told for me in Aurvandil.

[Wolfsong]

So a bunch of people with OOC connections legitimate players, who managed to only fill positions of power/lordships with others in their OOC circle (or multis) and had perfect communication with one another that entire time, somehow were all unaware that one of them had 15 or so multiple accounts? And after that one person's 15 multiple accounts were busted, all the legitimate players decided in unison to stop playing?

[Wolfsong]

I don't leave because I have no where to go and I still think there's a story to be told for me in Aurvandil.

If all the perfectly legitimate, inactive players of Aurvandil did auto-pause, it'd probably be the best thing to happen to the realm in a long time. The best play/RP seems to thrive on the brink of annihilation.

[Sypher]

I doubt Aurvandil will manage to pull out of their death spiral or fend off neighbors that want revenge.

Fissoa is moving west as they solidify their hold on Madina isle and Fatmilak isle would be next presumably. I would expect Barca to take the Evanburg area as those food producing regions would be beneficial to them and D'hara.

[Wolfsong]

Aurvandil is Nazi Germany at the end of WW2. There's a possibility for them to survive the war if they don't collapse internally, but the peace terms would probably be pretty harsh. (Ie, 'Hey, you guys, stop being nazis.')

[Anaris]

So a bunch of people with OOC connections legitimate players, who managed to only fill positions of power/lordships with others in their OOC circle (or multis) and had perfect communication with one another that entire time, somehow were all unaware that one of them had 15 or so multiple accounts? And after that one person's 15 multiple accounts were busted, all the legitimate players decided in unison to stop playing?

I didn't say that it was totally legit. Indeed, I suspect that these other players are Mendicant's OOC buddies, and that they ragequit because he got caught.

However, based on my experience with multicheaters, typically, if you catch one and lock most of his accounts, but miss (or deliberately leave) a few, they continue playing the others, using them to continue trying to achieve whatever goals they have, and even create new alts to replace the ones they lost. This tells me that these accounts were, in all likelihood, not actually other Mendicant multis.

[Wolfsong]

That doesn't absolve them of guilt, though. If they knew about the cheating going on (and from the sounds of it, it'd be damn well impossible to hide if they were as all well-connected and friendly OOC as it seems) then they were cheating, too.

[Lanyon]

wolfsong, were you alluding to Fissoa actually beating us? I don't care if we have 5 nobles that wouldnt happen.

[Phellan]

wolfsong, were you alluding to Fissoa actually beating us? I don't care if we have 5 nobles that wouldnt happen.

If Aurvandil's CS keeps dropping, it wont take much more than 5 Fissoans to beat them.

Heck, Barca will soon out power Aurvandil at the current rate.

[Chenier]

I didn't say that it was totally legit. Indeed, I suspect that these other players are Mendicant's OOC buddies, and that they ragequit because he got caught.

However, based on my experience with multicheaters, typically, if you catch one and lock most of his accounts, but miss (or deliberately leave) a few, they continue playing the others, using them to continue trying to achieve whatever goals they have, and even create new alts to replace the ones they lost. This tells me that these accounts were, in all likelihood, not actually other Mendicant multis.

Not being Mendicant's doesn't mean they aren't multies either. Wouldn't surprise me if Mendicant's OOC buddies were in on it, and also cheating themselves.

I think what everyone here would like is that these accounts be investigated. Sure, someone MAY have a LOT of OOC buddies. And sure, they may all tire at about the same time. But even OOC buddies would not stick around for the exact same amount of time.

[Poliorketes]

I doubt Aurvandil will manage to pull out of their death spiral or fend off neighbors that want revenge.

Fissoa is moving west as they solidify their hold on Madina isle and Fatmilak isle would be next presumably. I would expect Barca to take the Evanburg area as those food producing regions would be beneficial to them and D'hara.

A crumbling realm is always a interesting realm... a lot of open opportunities to change things... or make a rebellion! 

Honestly, I think the best for Aurvandil, now, would be a rebellion to take the power and try to make some kind of amends with their very pissed neighbours realms.

This or a wonderful last stand before their destruction!   

[Chenier]

A crumbling realm is always a interesting realm... a lot of open opportunities to change things... or make a rebellion! 

Honestly, I think the best for Aurvandil, now, would be a rebellion to take the power and try to make some kind of amends with their very pissed neighbours realms.

This or a wonderful last stand before their destruction!   

No rebellion will satisfy their neighbors' lust for revenge.

[Geronus]

Not being Mendicant's doesn't mean they aren't multies either. Wouldn't surprise me if Mendicant's OOC buddies were in on it, and also cheating themselves.

I think what everyone here would like is that these accounts be investigated. Sure, someone MAY have a LOT of OOC buddies. And sure, they may all tire at about the same time. But even OOC buddies would not stick around for the exact same amount of time.

File a Titan report then, with whatever evidence you have.

[egamma]

No rebellion will satisfy their neighbors' lust for revenge.

You don't seem to have a problem eating their food and paying them gold for it.

[Gustav Kuriga]

You don't seem to have a problem eating their food and paying them gold for it.

Probably because they stopped doing that a while ago...