Getting "a Good Mark"

[songqu88@gmail.com]

It's been on the wiki. Fancy that, really. I thought he was a really dumb ruler, really. Had no idea how to run a realm as was quite evident in Ordenstaat's stagnating slow and steady decay. Though they did hold out for a really long time.

[De-Legro]

It's been on the wiki. Fancy that, really. I thought he was a really dumb ruler, really. Had no idea how to run a realm as was quite evident in Ordenstaat's stagnating slow and steady decay. Though they did hold out for a really long time.

I got the impression that he was very much a "do it my way" kind of guy. In some realms that works, mostly it just alienates the player base.

[Chenier]

At some point in the past rulers could give bad marks to dukes. I got a bad mark from Arden Fury when I was Duke of Rettleville. It was lols.

Yes, rulers can do that to dukes. I want dukes to do it to lords.

[De-Legro]

Yes, rulers can do that to dukes. I want dukes to do it to lords.

Certainly makes sense to me.

[Kain]

So what happens if you get 3 bad marks?

As a Duke or just a knight.

[songqu88@gmail.com]

As a knight, the liege then has the option of renouncing the oath, thus making the knight no longer...a knight of that region.

For dukes, I am not sure nowadays, but I believe it means the ruler can then force a secession.

[fodder]

Certainly makes sense to me.

except there's no such thing as duchy region->imperial region.

[songqu88@gmail.com]

I think what is desired there is that a duke can do it only to lords in his own duchy. Imperial lords would, as the name implies, be subject to those marks by the ruler.

[vonGenf]

But what would you do to a Lord with 3 bad marks? The equivalent of forced secession would be to force the region to become imperial.

[fodder]

what happens to an imperial lord with 3 bad marks from the ruler?

bear in mind, bad mark is not a tool to remove someone from a lordship position.


now.. all that can have relevance with the new map/hierarchy/in-realm conflicts.

[vonGenf]

what happens to an imperial lord with 3 bad marks from the ruler?

bear in mind, bad mark is not a tool to remove someone from a lordship position.

It could make sense, though. It would only be possible to remove a Lord if both the rulers and all neighboring Dukes agreed; any Duke wishing to protect the Lord could do so. It's not extremely overpowered.

[fodder]

not really. just ban him if you want to be rid of him. or stab or some such. (auto da fe? is that to imp lord or imp knight? forgot again)

[vonGenf]

It's not like I'm looking for a new way to expel Lords. I'm just saying if the marks system was extended throughout the hierarchy, it would make sense for it to work that way, and it would not be unbalancing much.

[Shizzle]

It's not like I'm looking for a new way to expel Lords. I'm just saying if the marks system was extended throughout the hierarchy, it would make sense for it to work that way, and it would not be unbalancing much.

I agree.

[fodder]

well.. you just get around the idea that you can't remove titles from lords..