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Greater Xavax Imperium

Started by Schancke, June 30, 2016, 03:03:09 PM

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Constantine

Well, I really think that if Caligus didn't want to withdraw from that war they wouldn't have. It's kinda naive to believe people wage wars on the grounds of morality and compassion.

JeVondair

Quote from: Constantine on October 19, 2016, 04:07:33 PM
Well, I really think that if Caligus didn't want to withdraw from that war they wouldn't have. It's kinda naive to believe people wage wars on the grounds of morality and compassion.


Which is basically Perdan's public MO
"Behavior that's admired is the path to power among people everywhere"

Schancke

Quote from: Constantine on October 19, 2016, 04:07:33 PM
Well, I really think that if Caligus didn't want to withdraw from that war they wouldn't have. It's kinda naive to believe people wage wars on the grounds of morality and compassion.

...but then there are those strange, quirky characters that doesn't wage war solely on the single, strict criteria; that no realm should aspire to control more than two cities. 
Madness :D

Constantine

Quote from: JeVondair on October 19, 2016, 04:22:54 PM
Which is basically Perdan's public MO
Can't you make a distinction between political rhetoric and actual strategic motifs?

JeVondair

Quote from: Constantine on October 19, 2016, 04:33:21 PM
Can't you make a distinction between political rhetoric and actual strategic motifs?


Obviously, I called them out on it day 1, if you were paying attention
"Behavior that's admired is the path to power among people everywhere"

Victor C

Let's stop the snide remarks and keep the conversation civil and respectful.
"The greatest leader is not necessarily the one who does the greatest things. He is the one that gets the people to do the greatest things." - Ronald Reagan

Zakilevo

Xavax is outnumbered? What? 38 nobles in a single realm doesn't mean they are outnumbered. With Perdan pulling out, Vix+Southern realms will be the ones to be outnumbered.

GoldPanda

Quote from: Zakky on October 27, 2016, 04:57:18 AM
Xavax is outnumbered? What? 38 nobles in a single realm doesn't mean they are outnumbered. With Perdan pulling out, Vix+Southern realms will be the ones to be outnumbered.
And how many regions does each side have? How many of those regions are smoking craters due to aggressive looting?
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qui audet vincit

Zakilevo

Realm sizes don't matter as much as they used to thanks to the size limit.

Gold diminishes hard beyond 10 regions. Beyond 15, it becomes way too hard to manage.

You don't need too much gold to boost your CS when you have 38 nobles. Just go back to the good old fashion way. Make people recruit 10~20 men each. If you don't even have that much gold, you should consider surrendering.

GoldPanda

It makes a difference when your opponent can still field more troops than you, even though you have twice the number of knights. About half of those 38 nobles are youngsters who can command at most 30 troops. Most of the bandit knights don't even leave their cities with fewer than 100 troops.

Quote from: Zakky on October 27, 2016, 10:39:04 AM
If you don't even have that much gold, you should consider surrendering.
And what kind of example would I be setting for the new players? To even suggest such a thing... Good day to you, sir!  >:(
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qui audet vincit

Zakilevo

You are forgetting the fact you lose less CS per man when you have less men. If you have 10 men, you maintain over 90% of your CS. At 50, you are down to 50%. At 100, you are down to 40% due to diminishing return. That is why it is  wise to have multiple small militia units than 1 large one most of the time.

Having 38 nobles leading 30 men each is much better than 11 people leading 100 men each.

JeVondair

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"Behavior that's admired is the path to power among people everywhere"

Vita`

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Quote from: GoldPanda on October 27, 2016, 10:48:03 AM
It makes a difference when your opponent can still field more troops than you, even though you have twice the number of knights. About half of those 38 nobles are youngsters who can command at most 30 troops. Most of the bandit knights don't even leave their cities with fewer than 100 troops.
And what kind of example would I be setting for the new players? To even suggest such a thing... Good day to you, sir!  >:(
Sadly, Perdan has a bad reputation in that regard. You *will* surrender. Or you will be annihilated. Those are your only options with Perdan. And if you're extra special, Perdan will force you to be isolated and unable to participate in the island with the thread of extermination over your head, and you'll lose all those younger knights to boredom, leaving the game. But Perdan had fun!

Zakilevo

Not this time. Caspian is all buddy buddy with Selenia. Can't even insult Selenia anymore.

Vita`

Quote from: Zakky on October 27, 2016, 05:59:05 PM
Not this time. Caspian is all buddy buddy with Selenia. Can't even insult Selenia anymore.