The Current War

[Ehndras]

Legend has it that St Catherine of Alexandria was sentenced to be executed on one of these devices, which thereafter became known as the Catherine wheel, also used as an iconographic attribute. The wheel miraculously broke when she touched it; she was then beheaded.

"Its a miracle! God has willed that she must live!"

LOLNOPE.

[Uzamaki]

Sasuke just proposed a peace treaty to the Order of the Raven. Probably won't work, but it's worth a shot! 

[Eirikr]

Good luck... Have I ever mentioned how hard it is to light a fire on Atamara? It's always raining diplomacy and alliances.

Oh, and ruler inactivity/silence. 

[Geronus]

That's why we need to spark a massive, island-wide revolution and throw out all those old fogies. Viva la revolucion!

[Ehndras]

I don't play on Ata anymore but I second that. Continent-wide revolution! Viva!

[GoldPanda]

That's why we need to spark a massive, island-wide revolution and throw out all those old fogies. Viva la revolucion!

You are one of the old fogies. 

[Geronus]

You are one of the old fogies. 

Eh? I didn't even start playing until 2008. And at the time I left Atamara shortly after starting there, because I thought it sucked. I didn't try again and create Laszlo until 2009. That makes me practically a neophyte compared to half the people running Atamara these days.

The average starting year of the current rulers of Atamara is 2005. I rest my case.

[Ross]

Eh? I didn't even start playing until 2008. And at the time I left Atamara shortly after starting there, because I thought it sucked. I didn't try again and create Laszlo until 2009. That makes me practically a neophyte compared to half the people running Atamara these days.

The average starting year of the current rulers of Atamara is 2005. I rest my case.

so you are a not so old fogy.

[Foundation]

So... old...

[Perth]

I joined the game in 2008, and have only been ruler since 2010 I think.

Nevertheless, ruling for multiple years still probably makes us fogies I think. Just not on par with the likes of Sordnaz or Aldarion. Now those guys are old.

[Geronus]

so you are a not so old fogy.

Exactly! 

Also, I didn't rule on AT for very long. I was (reluctantly) the King of Hammarsett for about six months. I didn't enjoy it very much. It's hard to quantify, but there was a pervasive sense that the island has this enormously powerful momentum to it. It's been hurtling along with the same basic structure and relationships for so many years that no matter how many bright ideas you have or how dramatically you try to shake things up (see: the current war), nothing really changes at a fundamental level. That's why I vote that we explode the whole thing and start over. 

[Ketchum]

Wish I can join and make this war interesting

Unfortunately my adventurer Oak accidentally insult a Noble and not going to rise up become Noble anytime soon. Add to this, he is critically wounded and may die anytime today

[Dante Silverfire]

Exactly! 

Also, I didn't rule on AT for very long. I was (reluctantly) the King of Hammarsett for about six months. I didn't enjoy it very much. It's hard to quantify, but there was a pervasive sense that the island has this enormously powerful momentum to it. It's been hurtling along with the same basic structure and relationships for so many years that no matter how many bright ideas you have or how dramatically you try to shake things up (see: the current war), nothing really changes at a fundamental level. That's why I vote that we explode the whole thing and start over. 

I'll give you a hint of what you did wrong. You tried to change things up while still retaining power. It is a lot easier to change things up if you don't try to hold on to any power. Plus brute force is not going to work. Change on atamara is slow but the only way to actually successfully change it is to work slowly. Hammarsett's method was fast and direct. Mine isn't. Mainly because hammarsett is still kicking. If ppl want change they'll let hammarsett die. Coincidentally that makes me more powerful but you can ignore that part.

[Geronus]

I'll give you a hint of what you did wrong. You tried to change things up while still retaining power. It is a lot easier to change things up if you don't try to hold on to any power. Plus brute force is not going to work. Change on atamara is slow but the only way to actually successfully change it is to work slowly. Hammarsett's method was fast and direct. Mine isn't. Mainly because hammarsett is still kicking. If ppl want change they'll let hammarsett die. Coincidentally that makes me more powerful but you can ignore that part.

Well, I don't know about wanting to hold onto power... It's not like I wanted the throne in the first place. But certainly you can still effect change even when you're not a Ruler, I won't deny that.

As for Hammarsett, change is coming soon probably. We're discussing what we want to do now, in fact.

[Indirik]

" Add to this, he is critically wounded and may die anytime today"

Critically wounded people will not die from their wounds. No matter what people tell you, or how you interpret things, one fact remains in thee current system: if you don't die *instantly*, you will *not* die from it.