Nope, its one of these popular new cases of:
Caligus: "WE SHALL NOT SURRENDER, WE WILL FIGHT TO THE LAST BECAUSE YOUR TERMS DO NOT GIVE US MORE THAN WHAT WE STARTED WITH OR RETURN EVERYTHING TO THE STATUS QUO"
Vix: "no, you have to renounce all alliances and we get to keep this stuff because you were bad"
Other realms: "WAAAAH VIX IS TYRANTS, THEY ARE GOING TO DESTROY EVERYONE"