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Title: Can change dutchy allegiance, Can't make a new realm as duke
Post by: DamnTaffer on June 19, 2012, 01:37:59 AM
I just noticed that as the Duke of a dutchy which has a city in it, which i'm not lord of, I can change the allegiance of the dutchy to a different realm, but not start a new realm? Is this intentional or...
Title: Re: Can change dutchy allegiance, Can't make a new realm as duke
Post by: Indirik on June 19, 2012, 01:47:59 AM
How long have you been duke?

So far as I know, secession should be possible right now. Perhaps there is some bug in the fact that you're not the lord of a city...
Title: Re: Can change dutchy allegiance, Can't make a new realm as duke
Post by: DamnTaffer on June 19, 2012, 02:52:46 AM
Quote from: Indirik on June 19, 2012, 01:47:59 AM
How long have you been duke?

So far as I know, secession should be possible right now. Perhaps there is some bug in the fact that you're not the lord of a city...

I've been duke for over a month I think, definately more than the normal requirement of two weeks, the city however, has only been in the dutchy for a few days.
Title: Re: Can change dutchy allegiance, Can't make a new realm as duke
Post by: Indirik on June 19, 2012, 03:00:00 AM
Sounds like a bug to me.
Title: Re: Can change dutchy allegiance, Can't make a new realm as duke
Post by: DamnTaffer on June 19, 2012, 03:04:19 AM
Oh, I thought it was a feature
Title: Re: Can change dutchy allegiance, Can't make a new realm as duke
Post by: Indirik on June 19, 2012, 03:17:45 AM
A duke, even one who is not a lord, should be able to secede, as long as there is a city or stronghold in his duchy.

Is your character in the city or in his duchy? I remember talking about this while we were planning out secession in the new estate system, but I honestly can't remember how we finally decided to do it. Tim probably remembers, as he wrote the code.
Title: Re: Can change dutchy allegiance, Can't make a new realm as duke
Post by: DamnTaffer on June 19, 2012, 03:21:31 AM
Quote from: Indirik on June 19, 2012, 03:17:45 AM
A duke, even one who is not a lord, should be able to secede, as long as there is a city or stronghold in his duchy.

Is your character in the city or in his duchy? I remember talking about this while we were planning out secession in the new estate system, but I honestly can't remember how we finally decided to do it. Tim probably remembers, as he wrote the code.

I'm in the region within the dutchy where I am lord, I shall see if the button is there from within the city, If not I assume I should jsut make a bug report?
Title: Re: Can change dutchy allegiance, Can't make a new realm as duke
Post by: egamma on June 19, 2012, 03:34:47 AM
Quote from: DamnTaffer on June 19, 2012, 03:21:31 AM
I'm in the region within the dutchy where I am lord, I shall see if the button is there from within the city, If not I assume I should jsut make a bug report?

You mean that you are lord and not duke and you can secede?
Title: Re: Can change dutchy allegiance, Can't make a new realm as duke
Post by: Indirik on June 19, 2012, 03:35:02 AM
Yes, I would say try it while your character is physically in the city itself. If you still don't get the option, then I would report it as a bug. (Since duchies can now have more than one city/stronghold region, I seem to recall that the location of your character when you secede determines the location of the new capital. And since only city/stronghold regions can be capitals, you have to be in one of them to secede. That region becomes the capital of your new realm.)

I would try to test it on the dev server, but someone *cough*Tim*cough* has been testing the autopause code, and the data is royally screwed up...
Title: Re: Can change dutchy allegiance, Can't make a new realm as duke
Post by: Indirik on June 19, 2012, 03:35:34 AM
Quote from: egamma on June 19, 2012, 03:34:47 AM
You mean that you are lord and not duke and you can secede?
No, he is duke and lord, but not the lord of the city.
Title: Re: Can change dutchy allegiance, Can't make a new realm as duke
Post by: DamnTaffer on June 22, 2012, 03:11:20 AM
Am in the city, and do not have the option to create a new realm, this could possibly be because of the region being new.