I don't know if this has been talked before...
There is some way to spy a noble? Look into his last letters, etc...? Aside sending him to jail and torture him for information... this can be effective, but usually a bit extreme. 8)
If not, it could be a good thing! Both, to make 'true' investigations, as to make false accusations with forged proofs.
No.
And no thank you. Check the forums for many previous discussions on this topic.
There's nothing stopping you from roleplaying sending a servant/infiltrator/adventurer into the tent/room of another noble, stealing some paper and spilling an inkwell. Then, when they report the break-in, you present the forged letters that you found.
(because, obviously, you need to have evidence that you were able to get the letters)
Quote from: egamma on October 27, 2012, 04:29:17 PM
There's nothing stopping you from roleplaying sending a servant/infiltrator/adventurer into the tent/room of another noble, stealing some paper and spilling an inkwell. Then, when they report the break-in, you present the forged letters that you found.
(because, obviously, you need to have evidence that you were able to get the letters)
Unless you get him to play along and leak messages to you himself.
Quote from: Indirik on October 27, 2012, 01:42:28 PM
No.
And no thank you. Check the forums for many previous discussions on this topic.
mmm... I understand when you say: "no."... you mean: "yes, this was talked before, but it was rejected... If you check the forums, you will find many previous discussions on this topic."
ok, charming! I will look for it. 8)
Quote from: Poliorketes on October 27, 2012, 06:58:34 PM
mmm... I understand when you say: "no."... you mean: "yes, this was talked before, but it was rejected... If you check the forums, you will find many previous discussions on this topic."
ok, charming! I will look for it. 8)
To speed up your search, it was basically rejected because it isn't wanted to encourage OOC messaging methods.
Quote from: Penchant on October 28, 2012, 02:01:29 AM
To speed up your search, it was basically rejected because it isn't wanted to encourage OOC messaging methods.
mmm... yes... I can understand this, but then... mmm... Let's suppose there is a noble spy in your realm... then he is totally safe, the perfect spy!... better to accept all your moves will be know by the enemy realm, and you can do nothing about it, but be destroyed. :P
Quote from: Poliorketes on October 28, 2012, 09:57:53 AM
mmm... yes... I can understand this, but then... mmm... Let's suppose there is a noble spy in your realm... then he is totally safe, the perfect spy!... better to accept all your moves will be know by the enemy realm, and you can do nothing about it, but be destroyed. :P
Spies have been caught before. There are plenty of ways to figure them out.
Remember this is not a modern court of law. You do not need to be certain someone is a spy beyond the shadow of a doubt; if your character has a hunch, and your character is the type of guy to make enemies out of people on a hunch, then your characters thinks he's a spy.
Quote from: vonGenf on October 28, 2012, 10:05:14 AM
Spies have been caught before. There are plenty of ways to figure them out.
Every good ruler knows how to flush out spies. I've done this back when FEI was a new island and we were sure we had a spy in the realm.
Quote from: Tom on October 28, 2012, 10:48:37 AM
Every good ruler knows how to flush out spies. I've done this back when FEI was a new island and we were sure we had a spy in the realm.
Interesting... I'll look in the wiki, maybe I can found something about it.
Quote from: Poliorketes on October 28, 2012, 11:24:08 AM
Interesting... I'll look in the wiki, maybe I can found something about it.
I doubt it. Most of the tricks don't work as well if everyone knows them.
A good spy keeps his network of contacts to a minimum with the people who he is working for. Or, on the other hand, pulls a double agent.
Quote from: Gustav Kuriga on October 28, 2012, 08:22:36 PM
A good spy keeps his network of contacts to a minimum with the people who he is working for. Or, on the other hand, pulls a double agent.
If you're going to pull a double agent, be serious about it and pull a triple agent..... :-)
Quote from: Poliorketes on October 28, 2012, 11:24:08 AM
Interesting... I'll look in the wiki, maybe I can found something about it.
simplest way is to give different information to different groups of people, and see which gets passed on.
Quote from: vonGenf on October 28, 2012, 09:01:32 PM
If you're going to pull a double agent, be serious about it and pull a triple agent..... :-)
The official term for that is a redoubled agent.
Quote from: pcw27 on October 28, 2012, 09:53:20 PM
The official term for that is a redoubled agent.
I believe the term is "Counterintelligence threat". If someone comes to me saying they've been recruited as a double agent and want to pull a triple agent scheme, I'm sending them packing.
Quote from: vonGenf on October 28, 2012, 09:01:32 PM
If you're going to pull a double agent, be serious about it and pull a triple agent..... :-)
Man, back during the rebellions, even I had no idea who Machiavel was really working for. The government? The rebels? Both and none of them at the same time. Just riding the wave to be sure to be in the good favors of whoever won in the end.