Basically I'm hoping to find a fun new realm with lots of chatter if that is possible. Not too big. So far my idea is Swordfell or D'Hara. What do you guys think?
D'Hara: Paranoid (and justly so) realm in the middle of everyone, about to get ganked by super powers.
Swordfell: Unstable realm in the middle of two great powers, potential to be ganked at any time by said powers.
Not really trying to advertise (I might be out soon), but have you considered Fissoa? One of the new realms where Terran used to be might be interesting, or Barca. Crises lead to opportunity.
Not sure about D'Hara, but Swordfell ebbs and flows with activity. Between the Mendicant/DNS problems, a few active characters are in comas, but we still try to keep things active.
Shizzle has a point; if you REALLY like playing as the underdog, go check out Phantaria or Saffalore.
D'Hara, Swordfell, and Fissoa are all in the "between a rock and a hard place" situation, as tends to happen when you get wedged between major powers. DH has come to accept we'll be threatened at almost all times, which makes for a fun, high octane (or yes, paranoid) climate in game. We do tend to be pretty active and have ways for everyone to get involved from the get-go.
Not gonna lie, the Luria's seem like a pretty fun place atm. Especially if they really will be breaking into smaller realms again. The vendettas and counter-vendettas, coups and schemes have made for very interesting gameplay, I've heard, and a devoted player base.
I'd say that D'Hara doesn't get really cool until you score a Lordship. Realm discussions are high octain, but fizzle out quickly. There are avenues to make it really interesting, but no one really takes advantage of doing so. D'Hara also has the highest number of royal characters in Dwilight. It's like a retirement home...
Falkirk might be interesting because, since the war couldn't be finished, they have not been wiped of the map. They have all of madina to reclaim and a mortal enemy in Fissoa
Saffalore does not have anyone playing in it really. Should be an easy Lordship, at which point the surrounding powers will probably convince you to join them. Cool stuff.
But would you say it is more of a quiet realm or a lively realm?
As for D'Hara, you don't get spammed with letters every day, but there are various message groups that do have decent chatter and which you can join, either off the bat (Midland Council) or over time (House of Lords). There are a good numer of players, however, who readily participate in things that others start, and we regularly have RPs that have nothing to do with measurable IG objectives. One example is the monarchy. As you pointed out, the realm is a "monarchy" with a Prime Minister. While it may seem contradictory, it's basically the same thing as the british Commonwealth. We've always had a King, but since the last Dragon King autopaused, we RPed him as a background NPC, and run the realm as a republic with quarterly elections for every position. The House of Lords is the reigning body, and they decide most things one way or another. However, we recently RPed the old Dragon King's assassination, and my character was elected as a replacement, though he has yet to be crowned. And it all started with a few people wanting more than a mere NPC nobody really played, and everyone pretty much went along with it. As such, if you want to start things, there are good chances a decent number of people will tag along and participate. If you stay silent and don't ask to get included in any message group and don't try to get any promotions, though, then you'll miss out on a lot. But that's to be expected pretty much everywhere, imo.
I'd advise against Phantaria, though. With but a very small number of nobles, sure, you MIGHT be able to get a lordship or even a government position, but that's if they don't get gobbled up within the month. And even if the few nobles are active (which there is no guarantee of), the realm just lacks the critical mass necessary to maintain interesting interactions.
D'Hara, Swordfell, or Fissoa are better choices than Phantaria.
You get out of a realm what you put into it. I wouldn't discourage someone from joining a realm like Phantaria just because it 'might' get gobbled up.
:)
The main argument is not that it might get gobbled up, though it should be considered, but rather that the very small number of nobles make the potential for interaction incredibly low. Unless you like limiting yourself to talking with just one other dude, that is.
Micro realms are good for promotions, but not for RP and overall chatter or interactions.
Phantaria is quiet, we need more nobles.
Why not come join it? Big, chatty realm don't become big, chatty realms unless people decide to make them that way at some point!
Basically I'm hoping to find a fun new realm with lots of chatter if that is possible. Not too big. So far my idea is Swordfell or D'Hara. What do you guys think?
We're supposed to be friends!
I can't speak for D'Hara or Swordfell, but Luria Nova has a lot of chatter, and the playerbase there is one of the best I've ever played with in BM. The leaders are very responsive and focused on making sure the entire playerbase including the knights have fun and are valued. There have been perhaps 7 lordship appointments in the past two weeks for various reasons, and one thing Luria is known for is a very distinctive culture.
Of course, Luria Nova is one of the larger realms on Dwilight, however it doesn't function as most large realms do. The realm is very decentralized in terms of dukes having a large amount of influence and lords also holding a lot of sway in terms of how things go. It is possible that Luria Nova will split off into multiple realms soon, but that isn't assured. In general, each duke tends to operate their duchy as its own individual realm, with duchy referendums and the like depending upon which Duke.
If you like D'Hara join the Farronite Republic as they are in bed with each other!
I think you'll have to clarify a little. Pretty please.
D'Hara's PM is married to FR's GG (Governor General).
Honestly, though, I find FR's ruler to be rather awkward. If I ever set up puppet states, I'll have them have GGs as my lieutenants. As, you know, the british monarchy does in the Commonwealth (for example, Canada has both a Prime Minister and a Governor General, whereas, to my knowledge, Britain does not have a GG, but only the queen).
Both rulers are elected government officials, though, and not monarchs. Any offpsring will therefore be very well off, but not a heir.
The D'Haran system of government seems to be more Roman than British to me. Great families of Rome had to work hard to maintain their family prestige, and lost it quite easily, which seems to happen often in the D'Haran clusterbleep.
There is still wide recognition to name though. We are based pretty heavily on personal ties. I think the amount of loyalty a JeVondair/Kye lovechild would command in our neighborhood would be a pretty mighty claim to something mighty.
So where did the OP end up going?
Stop by D'Hara on your way, and you'll meet your future Imperator. ;)
After all, D'Hara's Dragon King is about to get married to the Imperator's daughter.
Marrying a D'Hara is so IN, all the cool people are doing it!
Maybe we should start a match-making guild...
No other realm has such a high density of royals or dukes! Top quality husbands and wives for the picking!
D'Hara: Paranoid (and justly so) realm in the middle of everyone, about to get ganked by super powers.
Swordfell: Unstable realm in the middle of two great powers, potential to be ganked at any time by said powers.
...but I shall join Swordfell soon....
He's leading Swordfell straight into the ground.
How about unblock my letters and see what I've been saying? You are allowed to participate, even though we don't like you. Or...you know, just leave.
Make him leave!
Trying to woo enemies always backfires. They must be crushed. Annihilated.
I see someone has been reading his Machiavelli ;)
Make him leave!..
Rofl, Bowie is a dolt who is puffed up. Plenty of people realize it, hence why he has been shunned out of every kingdom he has step foot in.
Swordfell has limited time, I am glad to say.
Sevastian on the other hand, has limitless time in his stronghold.
Oh, and watching Sevastian's and Bowie's antics. That may become the great Fellish pastime.
Bowie: "I sense inspiration for another play coming on. Quick, get my ink and quil!"
Bowie is one of the best characters on the continent. I imagine Swordfell is probably an interesting place with him having free reign there.
And another point as to why I have no respect for you as a player. Taking things said OOC and using them as ammunition for IC actions.
Weak. Sauce.
... you disgust me....
Do you really need to ask that? Or are you really trying to play the 'innocent victim' card still?
Theme music from Shaft begins...Who's the black private dick
That's a sex machine to all the chicks?
(Bowie!)
You're damn right
Who is the man
That would risk his neck for his brother man?
(Bowie!)
Can ya dig it?
Who's the cat that won't cop out
When there's danger all about
(Bowie!)
Right on
You see this cat Bowie is a bad mother--
(Shut your mouth)
But I'm talkin' about Bowie
(Then we can dig it)
He's a complicated man
But no one understands him but his woman
(Demon O'Dwilight)
I am sorry everyone, I could not help myself. 8)
I didn't say I was actually going to do it. Your mentality just had that ring of, oh I don't know, something I should laugh at.
And another point as to why I have no respect for you as a player. Taking things said OOC and using them as ammunition for IC actions.
Weak. Sauce.
Pot, meet Kettle. Kettle, meet Pot.
But they are so alike! How do I tell them apart?
Pot, meet Kettle. Kettle, meet Pot.
But they are so alike! How do I tell them apart?
I wasn't being a dick. How come you're disgusted? Start from the beginning, from your POV.
If you aren't having fun that's not cool.
Is this really the first time you've noticed that you offend Woelfy on an OOC level with your disrespectful, sometimes disgusting antics?
I thought you just didn't care, because you'd have to be pretty oblivious to have not picked up on that.
... Just stop talking to them...
Sometimes I feel like Bowie has become Lando Calrissian and Swordfell is Cloud City :P
I am altering the realm... pray I do not alter it further.
Huh? How do you mean?
We had about 18 people, lost one from Mendicant, one or two from the DNS server problem (I assume), a few more to immigration, and now a few from Sevastian's last jibe against Swordfell.
The Divides are cursed, I tells you, cursed! Fun...but CURSED!
We had about 18 people, lost one from Mendicant, one or two from the DNS server problem (I assume), a few more to immigration, and now a few from Sevastian's last jibe against Swordfell.
The Divides are cursed, I tells you, cursed! Fun...but CURSED!
I might get a next character in the Divides. Luria is also on my shortlist, though.
Is Luria still fun? I mean still maintaining its reputation?
It was always on my "dang, I really need to play over there once this character dies" list. But since its all unified these days is the golden age of Luria gone?
This theory might make sense if 80% of the infighting that has historically occurred in Luria did, in fact, occur during the period in which "Luria" almost exclusively meant "Pian en Luries"...
That's what I'm saying. It's largely occurred during the time of separate entities (ignoring the reason that PeL split up in the first place).
Being all one realm is not the primary reason Luria's infighting has calmed down recently.
The problem with splitting in more realms is that at some point one or more Kings will rebel as we saw happening.
It would be nice to have more tools to actually make this work better. Maybe go back to that discussion of Oaths and a few more good ideas I don't even remember where we had or where it is.
And I agree, PeL was the Golden Age of Luria.
I'm not a fan of multi-realm empires. They tend to lock up diplomacy pretty hard. You have only to look at AT to see the end result of this.
a.) A Lurian multi-realm empire is nothing to worry about.
b.) A multi-realm empire also erects communication barriers, smaller, less organized armies, and again the potential to war itself to death.
c.) It's not going to happen any time soon, unless Alice dies I suppose.
AT has, AFAIK, a federation of many member realms of equal rank. There is no supra-national government or institution. Thus, it does not compare. It's just a big alliance, not a multi-realm empire.CE & Tara are the leaders.
CE & Tara are the leaders.
From what I heard, CE's bloc seems like what Enweil's huge "empire" used to be: a coalition of like-minded states, mostly set up by Enweil, but not owing direct fealty to it, but rathercooperation due to friendship and common interestsfear of the 800lb gorilla.
I like how hard the multi-realm empires are to 1) create and 2) maintain. It makes them notable and really cool when they happen.
Bets on a Greater Terran of some kind being formed?
What's a Terran?
The 5th theocracy as of a few minutes ago.
Just finishing up the details over the next few days.
Bets on a Greater Terran of some kind being formed?
Hm.... has an supra-governmental entity ever been formed over three realms with completely different government types? A pseudo-Republic, a Theocracy, and a Monarchy?
Man. This make's me realize how much therapy and daddy issues all the folks from the corpse of Terran have, the place has gone wacky.
The ex-kings chillin in D'Hara swear we have the best therapists. Pretty sure they log some serious hours couch-side with ol' Rynn.
I don't really see how a Greater Terran could happen since the old constituent states kiiiinda seem to hate each other a little bit.
The Arcaean Empire on FEI has a monarchy and two theocracies.
Actually, Hireshmont doesn't particularly dislike Phantaria and Saffalore. He dislikes Erasmus, who is in Saffalore, but aside from Erasmus, he's pretty chill with a divided Terran right now. He'd like to pull them closer together, but no need for a united realm.
Yeah, we're all cool with each other. We just all kinda wanna own each other a little bit deep down.
Form a Greater Terran.
That way we all own each other.
Hah, I see history repeating itself if that were to happen. If Terran broke, why remake it? Do something new yo.
Why would he want to swear fealty to Saffalore? ;)
Ofc, they'd end up being some sort of principality, and not a kingdom.