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BattleMaster => BM General Discussion => Topic started by: songqu88@gmail.com on March 10, 2011, 07:32:28 PM
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...Also what you really wanted to do must not break any rules.
For me, I always wanted to host a tournament. But the cities to which I was appointed duke were Flowrestown, Rettleville, and Creasur. Flowrestown was a temporary thing. Rettleville was dirt poor with monsters everywhere. Creasur got blighted about two days after I became its duke.
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Win a tournament :D
And found a new colony somewhere :)
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Win a tournament :D
And found a new colony somewhere :)
Yea, I'd love to win a tournament. Only managed to get 2nd place about 4 times so far. I'd also like to lead a successful rebellion, but all mine fail.
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Found a religion. Maybe some day I'll get to found a splinter off of Sanguis Astroism...
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I would also like to found a religion.
I have been a co-founder original part-designer of three religions: Qyrvaggism, Way of the Warrior Saints, and Triunism. I have been a priest in all of them. I have never gotten to actually start a religion. This makes me sad.
I also want to secede, but I need a good RP motivation.
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Create a massive Secret Society (I guess then it's not so secret ;) )
Create an empire like the one Matt's working on.
Become a Duke (probably will happen soon).
Sponsor/Maintain a volunteer based elite army (elite only in name and IC, not OOC commitments needed).
Host a major tournament.
Get to 100% skill.
Make/train/cultivate a unit with 99 training, awesome weapon/armour, and over 2000 CS.
Get some medals (is anyone still giving 'em out? :P)
That's about it...for now. :)
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How would you know if you got to 100% skill? Even the tournament show off estimate can be off, but for anything other than sword and joust, what do we do?
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Get some medals (is anyone still giving 'em out? :P)
Umm... You just fixed the "can't give medals" bug a few hours ago. So, maybe now that people actually /can/ give medals, they will. :)
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Umm... You just fixed the "can't give medals" bug a few hours ago. So, maybe now that people actually /can/ give medals, they will. :)
Hehe, well, I guess. Hopefully someone can test it out (gimme some! :D) since I can't do so on dev (it's a live server problem).
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Gain a medal.
Become Duke of a city.
Found a colony on Dwilight.
Gather enough Sanguis Astroism forces and call on a crusade against Zuma Coalition on Dwilight always wanted to see the daimons on dwilight dead! mwahahaha!
Have a 300 infantry unit. Silly but still I want to see 300 infantry men on just one unit and assault/attack something :P
What else...
Become the Sponsor of an army.
And for the moment I think that is all.
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I already achieved a lot of what I wanted, but setting up a good, nice, interesting Religion and making it flourish from the start with a Priest that doesn't have to worry about other duties is something I would really like to do.
Oh, and winning a Tournament!
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Alongside the regular ideas a propositions, like become duke. I have always wanted to try and found a central lending bank. I think Tom wouldn't like this means of doing it and it is probably against the rules, but I still think it would be fun. Here is the idea, On three different islands, probably Atamara, dwilight, and Far East I would create a matching guild. The purpose of this guild would be to serve as a central bank, you could deposit gold at any of the branches and be able to send it, through us, to your other family members. I could also issue loans to realms through it and provide funds for war and colony founding.
I would also like to gain a medal :-[
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Alongside the regular ideas a propositions, like become duke. I have always wanted to try and found a central lending bank. I think Tom wouldn't like this means of doing it and it is probably against the rules, but I still think it would be fun. Here is the idea, On three different islands, probably Atamara, dwilight, and Far East I would create a matching guild. The purpose of this guild would be to serve as a central bank, you could deposit gold at any of the branches and be able to send it, through us, to your other family members. I could also issue loans to realms through it and provide funds for war and colony founding.
I would also like to gain a medal :-[
I did want to make loans and stuff, but found it almost impossibly hard to transfer funds effectively with the current mechanics. :)
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I did want to make loans and stuff, but found it almost impossibly hard to transfer funds effectively with the current mechanics. :)
I am not really that familiar with the guilds system, but if you were to loan the money and have the signer join a guild that could charge a monthly fee as repayment. they could essentially repay you through that. You would still need to travel to their capital to transfer the funds to them though.
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I am not really that familiar with the guilds system, but if you were to loan the money and have the signer join a guild that could charge a monthly fee as repayment. they could essentially repay you through that. You would still need to travel to their capital to transfer the funds to them though.
And nothing would actually force them to pay up.
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Get to the top of the fame pile...
So, I need a rebellion, a counted win at a tournament (Lelnor won the Joust before, but the fame point wasn't active)...
Those two should put me over. I nearly had the rebellion, but I was foiled twice in a week on it.
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Rebellions have been confirmed to not give fame.
http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Lemon_Fame_2
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I've always wanted to found or re-found a realm. Though that would also require me becoming a Duke for more than five minutes for the first time since 2006/7, never mind finding the right circumstances.
Rebellions have been confirmed to not give fame.
http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Lemon_Fame_2
Satisfying way of getting your first Ruler fame point though. That's how I rolled ;-)
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Rebellions have been confirmed to not give fame.
http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Lemon_Fame_2
*sniff* It's still something I've always wanted to do. Guess I'll chase other fame points then, like outcast. Though I swear Serko should've earned that by now.
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*sniff* It's still something I've always wanted to do. Guess I'll chase other fame points then, like outcast. Though I swear Serko should've earned that by now.
Winning a rebellion is the easy part. Try winning a rebellion, getting made ruler, and getting banned all within 5 seconds. Now THAT is an accomplishment. ;)
P.S. Perhaps if things had worked differently with PeL you would have.
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And nothing would actually force them to pay up.
If you had enough realms borrowing funds from you, then you could offer some amount off the principle if they attack the realm that decides it doesn't need to pay. ;) Or you will just have to have a significant army of your own. Besides, having a bank on your side would be a rather good thing if you need to get involved in any conflicts and braking that tie would cause some incentive for the bank to fund your enemies.
In other words, no. there is no official way to make them pay up, but if you get all godfather about it you could make it work. (Thinking about an army of infiltrators ;D)
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P.S. Perhaps if things had worked differently with PeL you would have.
How's that then?
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How's that then?
Well losing wars of secession/rebellions doesn't do to well in that respect.
(I am correct in that this is the Serko from PeL right?)
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So if this is in fact allowed...
1. Get elected ruler somewhere.
2. Rebel and win on the same continent in another realm.
3. ???
4. Profit?
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So if this is in fact allowed...
1. Get elected ruler somewhere.
2. Rebel and win on the same continent in another realm.
3. ???
4. Profit?
It's called a bug. It's not "allowed" persay. Although it happened either way.
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I see...Well then...Patchy bandage?
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So if this is in fact allowed...
1. Get elected ruler somewhere.
2. Rebel and win on the same continent in another realm.
3. ???
4. Profit?
I donno, but if you can pull that off without OOC tricks, I think you deserve the profit.
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.... infil. never actually managed to go down that route properly.
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Become Duke
Secede or Rebel
Become Ruler
Get 10,000 family wealth
Have an infiltrator
Get Fame over 25
Write a book!
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Every girl's dream to get married :P
And sponsor an army so I can make one of those little banners ;D
Another thing I am working on is enobling my advy so she can become an infil.
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Every girl's dream to get married :P
And sponsor an army so I can make one of those little banners ;D
Another thing I am working on is enobling my advy so she can become an infil.
Great thing the one to get married! I was about to marry one of my chars in Fontan ^^ hehe, it's a fun thing to do and a great tool of RP!
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Marriage would be fun but BM is usually more serious than anything else. I have yet to find a real funny-realm.. and no, never been to the colonies. If I ever secede it's gonna be a funny name ::)
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I don't think serious prevents marriage. We've had a lot of married characters in Arcaea and done some fine wedding RPs. None of them were "funny" in the sense of being Badgersquirreltutu funny (though there was often a lot of humour). Generally they've been part of large arcs and some have had major impacts on the game. (Jenred's obsession with his wife is fairly well-known, for example.)
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Marriage would be fun but BM is usually more serious than anything else. I have yet to find a real funny-realm.. and no, never been to the colonies. If I ever secede it's gonna be a funny name ::)
Have you never heard about the badgers, mooseman, I Can't Believe It's Not Butter? Those couldn't be serious...
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Great thing the one to get married! I was about to marry one of my chars in Fontan ^^ hehe, it's a fun thing to do and a great tool of RP!
You were about to? What happened?
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Hmm..seceding is about the only thing I haven't done. Would like to try it some time. Problem seems to be that when you make it to the dukes position you like the realm enough not to secede.
Back during the second invasion I wanted to surrender my stronghold to the undead, but the game prevented me from doing so :(
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Hmm..seceding is about the only thing I haven't done. Would like to try it some time. Problem seems to be that when you make it to the dukes position you like the realm enough not to secede.
Hmm, you must be going about getting the Duke position ALL wrong...
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Well, there's a bunch of fairly conventional things I'd like to do. Get a successful infiltrator, win a tournament, be victorious in a death duel and create a multirealm empire. Some quirkier things though...
- Have a character go down in BM history as an evil genius. Mind you, just going down in BM history with any character would be nice.
- Participate in a genuine religious war
- Destroy a realm (from the outside)
- Make a character with a pet hamster. And play it completely straight. :D
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- Have a character go down in BM history as an evil genius. Mind you, just going down in BM history with any character would be nice.
I'm just wondering, how exactly does someone go about going down into BM history? I'm wondering because I'd also like to get a character to do just that, but I have no idea what sort of pre-reqs there are. What characters have already gone down in BM history?
- Participate in a genuine religious war
If you join Dwilight, you can join almost any realm except maybe two, and you'll be in the middle of a religious war. Well mostly, at least a war against a religion, but idk, any other Dwilight peeps care to clarify that?
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I'm just wondering, how exactly does someone go about going down into BM history? I'm wondering because I'd also like to get a character to do just that, but I have no idea what sort of pre-reqs there are. What characters have already gone down in BM history?
I think you do so by roaming on one continent enough, like certain infiltrators, that *everyone* who's been in realms long enough know who you are and what you do, be it good or bad. ;)
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I'm just wondering, how exactly does someone go about going down into BM history? I'm wondering because I'd also like to get a character to do just that, but I have no idea what sort of pre-reqs there are. What characters have already gone down in BM history?
*Cough* Is stealing over 10000 gold reason enough? It definitely had a few people quite up in arms. 8)
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*Cough* Is stealing over 10000 gold reason enough? It definitely had a few people quite up in arms. 8)
Well it certainly goes down in Coria's history. Since you stole over half of that from my character alone, I think I have plenty of objections to it. ;) It was a good ploy but it did eventually get yourself killed and a blood oath from my character towards your family. (Just this one character of course, and only on Atamara)
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Gold you steal without getting discovered :)
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Gold you steal without getting discovered :)
Heheheh. This.
- Have a character go down in BM history as an evil genius. Mind you, just going down in BM history with any character would be nice.
I think it would be presumptuous for me to say I have had a character go down in history as an evil genius. But I have character that has certainly made pretty large multi-continental reputation for himself as more-or-less deranged and corrupt. Look up "Hireshmont Vellos" on the wiki. Not Hireshmont II, mind you; he's a straight-shooter (don't you say nothing Telrunya!). But his dad was a bit involved in shady business from time to time.
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I'm just wondering, how exactly does someone go about going down into BM history? I'm wondering because I'd also like to get a character to do just that, but I have no idea what sort of pre-reqs there are. What characters have already gone down in BM history?
Here's a test. Anyone know of/remember Si Ju Jarugi? He was a noble of Drachenwald who assassinated Achilles, Dictator of Tara, earning what was, at the time, the largest bounty ever collected. A glance at the wiki (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Petterson_Family/SJJ/Time_Line) reveals he earned 1550 gold for that hit on 03/11/05. Big news back then, but is that act of infamy and key talking point of the day remembered now?
I think fame/infamy seems to not permeate much further than the realms you're involved in. Certainly reputation doesn't survive the daily toil of player turnover. But that's what the wiki is for ;-) Gauihu Olik and the role he played in Abington's death is forever immortalised through realm histories and newspaper articles. The wiki is the one sure fire way you can carve out your place in BM history, heh.
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Well it certainly goes down in Coria's history. Since you stole over half of that from my character alone, I think I have plenty of objections to it. ;) It was a good ploy but it did eventually get yourself killed and a blood oath from my character towards your family. (Just this one character of course, and only on Atamara)
Coria was sinking fast and needed something to spark it to life. I was really wishing I would get enough people behind me to oust the leadership, but I guess gold alone was not enough to get all those knights to wake up. I love the blood oath, I have two characters in Atamara right now but one of them is paused. Moria is straitlaced, but Merodak is the son of Borus and quite villainous. He wants nothing more than to rain destruction down on the realm(s) that caused his fathers death. His favorite time in life was RPBing coria's capital.
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Coria was sinking fast and needed something to spark it to life. I was really wishing I would get enough people behind me to oust the leadership, but I guess gold alone was not enough to get all those knights to wake up. I love the blood oath, I have two characters in Atamara right now but one of them is paused. Moria is straitlaced, but Merodak is the son of Borus and quite villainous. He wants nothing more than to rain destruction down on the realm(s) that caused his fathers death. His favorite time in life was RPBing coria's capital.
To be fair, you hadn't been in the realm long enough to secure any lasting loyalty and you didn't go about things as cautiously as you maybe should have. I'm not sure you could have pulled off a successful rebellion without a fair amount of planning beforehand, and use the gold theft only as a final step before rebellion. Not to mention, even if you replaced the leadership, you'd have to deal with my character still as Duke, ready to send you to your grave as soon as possible. The counter-rebellion would have resulted in your losing all the power you had gained and splitting Coria forever in two as any who worked with you would be shunned.
Also, gold wouldn't be enough to simply buy over the knights of our realm. Coria's best trait was always its outstanding nobility. Not sure they'd stoop to bribes.
As far as Merodak goes, my character has already realized his "gross" ancestry. It didn't take long after he arrived in Coria's capitol for me to see that he hopefully gained a reprimand from the Darkan leadership. (Did it work? Just wondering...) Anyway, as far as my character is concerned, any nobles that set foot on Atamara from your family personally owe my character a lump some of gold to replace that which was stolen. Whether they want to pay it back slowly over time, all at once, or just have my hatred rain down on you for the duration that you stay on Atamara is their choice of course. ;)
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As far as Merodak goes, my character has already realized his "gross" ancestry. It didn't take long after he arrived in Coria's capitol for me to see that he hopefully gained a reprimand from the Darkan leadership. (Did it work? Just wondering...)
Nope ;D apparently the Darkan leaders saw nothing wrong with Merodak's behavior because not a word of reprimand was sent. Funny actually, I think if it were any other realm on the island he would have been.
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Nope ;D apparently the Darkan leaders saw nothing wrong with Merodak's behavior because not a word of reprimand was sent. Funny actually, I think if it were any other realm on the island he would have been.
Wow...so much for what Darka's King told me then...
ugh....
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- Make a character with a pet hamster. And play it completely straight. :D
'We must inspire fear in evil! Quiet tales of hamsters are foolish, but a man and his hamster that tear evil limb from limb? That's scary!'
I think you do so by roaming on one continent enough, like certain infiltrators, that *everyone* who's been in realms long enough know who you are and what you do, be it good or bad. ;)
Like Guy Revan who stabbed Evangeline for the 7k bounty then lost it all when he switched realms to try and avoid Sirion's high property and wealth tax. That was an interesting episode.
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Here's a test. Anyone know of/remember Si Ju Jarugi? He was a noble of Drachenwald who assassinated Achilles, Dictator of Tara, earning what was, at the time, the largest bounty ever collected.
Gauihu Olik and the role he played in Abington's death is forever immortalised through realm histories and newspaper articles. The wiki is the one sure fire way you can carve out your place in BM history, heh.
As it happens, I remember Si ju Jarungi. But bounties aren't a big deal. That's just an infiltrator's blood-money, not really infamous or evil (especially since infils generally prefer NOT to be noticed). The real infamous ones are villains like Delvin, Aldo, or Handkor; or Doc, for example.
The path to fame is indeed the Wiki: or, the realm. So, for example, few people remember individual Avamarians. But Avamar itself remains part of the game's "collective memory." Or the zillion incarnations of Tuchanon (which, by the way, if/when I succeed in forming a secession, it will almost certainly be called Tuchanon, even though I never played in any of the earlier Tuchanon incarnations). Or Sirion and Doc, for example. Our Sordnaz and BoM. Or, heck, Irombrozia (though we were kind of a backwater, admittedly).
Or consider Mathurin Hossenfeffer: a well-run religion is also a path to lasting fame.
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*Cough* Is stealing over 10000 gold reason enough? It definitely had a few people quite up in arms. 8)
I'm sure that Coria will remember, but I doubt that it resonates too much even on the rest of Atamara. When my character executed yours, it barely made a blip even in Carelia. I did earn some political capital with Coria (at least temporarily), so I appreciated your visit!
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- <y> Become an Elder of a widely hated, successful, religion
- <y> Lead a rebellion
- <y> Succeed in a rebellion
- <y> Fail a rebellion
- <n> Win a tournament
- <n> Become wealthy
- <y> Become God of Netherworld
- <y> Play an infiltrator
- <n> Become a Duke under the new, working, oath system
- <n> Bring a style of religion not found anywhere else in BM to the game (in progress)
I'm still not certain how to top 7. Any suggestions?
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- <y> Become an Elder of a widely hated, successful, religion
- <y> Lead a rebellion
- <y> Succeed in a rebellion
- <y> Fail a rebellion
- <n> Win a tournament
- <n> Become wealthy
- <y> Become God of Netherworld
- <y> Play an infiltrator
- <n> Become a Duke under the new, working, oath system
- <n> Bring a style of religion not found anywhere else in BM to the game (in progress)
I'm still not certain how to top 7. Any suggestions?
Lead an invasion of the Netherworld and become the Warlord of the conquered Netherworld.
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Lead an invasion of the Netherworld and become the Warlord of the conquered Netherworld.
Maybe. I'm not sure that is more impressive though, as it would mean allowances had to be made to make it even possible...
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Winning both events at a full tournament, like me! ;D
I personally only count my achievements as a PC in a human realm as real accomplishments. In case anyone cares why, it's because anything I might accomplish I want to be gained on even ground as everyone else. For example, winning a tournament, anyone who plays a warrior not part of the council or hosting the tournament can go to a tournament and have a chance at winning. There is nothing preventing every player from having a chance at that same achievement.
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I'm sure that Coria will remember, but I doubt that it resonates too much even on the rest of Atamara. When my character executed yours, it barely made a blip even in Carelia. I did earn some political capital with Coria (at least temporarily), so I appreciated your visit!
You earned a lot more than you think! At the time we were still pretty resentful at finding your troops in our lands after we explicitly denied them permission :P after the execution of Borus this helped things a lot.
I was really wishing I would get enough people behind me to oust the leadership, but I guess gold alone was not enough to get all those knights to wake up.
Haha Borus was RP'd as being insane, and put none of the groundwork required into a successful rebellion. Given that you had already sent the majority of the gold back to your family when you started asking for the rebellion, I don't understand how it could have been used?
Let's just say Merlin isn't the only one with a grudge against the Igelfeld family ;)
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Let's just say Merlin isn't the only one with a grudge against the Igelfeld family ;)
Establish bitter rivalry between my family and others... check! 8)
To do:
Exact revenge on Coria and Corian leadership with one character while having another try to repair bonds and redeem family honor in Coria... In progress. It will take a while from both sides, but I think it will be interesting to try.
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I would like to build an Theocracy based on a religion I found myself.
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Establish bitter rivalry between my family and others... check! 8)
I wonder if I accomplished this in Pian or not?
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I would like to form a religion based on the worship of my family.
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~Take my guild and create a watchdog society on the EC.
~Become a Duke
~Sponsor an army
~Become a Ruler
~Get the Mentor Fame point
~eventually work on an Advy to go super pro infiltrator
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~Take my guild and create a watchdog society on the EC.
Watchdog as in... make sure they don't dump too much slag from the smithies in local streams? Prevent price-gouging for peasants? What kind of watchdog?
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Basically I'd like to take it the same route as the C.I.A. in the U.S., only without the bad decisions being made that get us into trouble. More or less, the main goal of my guild is to assist with the spread of Sovereignty on all levels (except those silly advies! although they are in the guild as well for information gathering and other purposes)
At this point it is used as an information and report sharing network between member nations.
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Basically I'd like to take it the same route as the C.I.A. in the U.S., only without the bad decisions being made that get us into trouble. More or less, the main goal of my guild is to assist with the spread of Sovereignty on all levels (except those silly advies! although they are in the guild as well for information gathering and other purposes)
At this point it is used as an information and report sharing network between member nations.
Sounds like Argus and the Ceeded Intelligence Agency on Beluaterra, before they both collapsed. And before that, Oligarch's Worst Case Council on Atamara.
Good times, those. I wish you luck.
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Did Argus ever get off the ground? I was never much involved in it.
CCA had a nice intelligence/insurgency ring... but nothing comes close to the WCC. I had so much energy back then... so much free time...
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Did Argus ever get off the ground? I was never much involved in it.
CCA had a nice intelligence/insurgency ring... but nothing comes close to the WCC. I had so much energy back then... so much free time...
I am still amazed when people mention Argus. It was successful in outing a rebllion in Riombara, and then I had to leave the game due to time demands. I turned it over to someone else, and by all accounts they screwed it up. If people are still interested in this kind of stuff, I have been working on something much more insidious and I think I have the kinks worked out of the system. It's certainly been far more effective than Argus ever was, or could have been. I'm always looking for players to work with. Shoot me a PM.
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Shoot me a PM.
Don't you mean "Have your character find mine in-game?"
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Did Argus ever get off the ground? I was never much involved in it.
I should think not, as it was largely targeted against Hireshmont...
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Don't you mean "Have your character find mine in-game?"
No, because I enjoy talking shop just as much as you. If I wanted to play with someone, then I would tell them to find me in-game.
What I really want to do in BM but haven't (yet): operate a functional continental "bank". I think it can be done. It would just require a lot of capital, and you'd definitely have to be selling something to attract the kind of demand required to sustain it.
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I should think not, as it was largely targeted against Hireshmont...
Really? Wow. That's funny. But admirable: counter-intel is tough work. Much, much harder than simple espionage. Though, and maybe this was part of it, but somebody in Argus contacted me about joining. I seem to remember thinking it was a little bit too hocus-pocus-y for my tastes. I don't like flair.
I prefer simpler things, like what we did to Rio when Anselm re-opened the war. Turning a council member and a region lord after buying a region and TOing another ain't half bad. If it hadn't been for the multi-swarm that voted against peace, we could have made peace, and Iro might still be alive. Meh. I hate multis.
What I really want to do in BM but haven't (yet): operate a functional continental "bank". I think it can be done. It would just require a lot of capital, and you'd definitely have to be selling something to attract the kind of demand required to sustain it.
This. This is what I want to do. I think there is insufficient demand, however.
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What I really want to do in BM but haven't (yet): operate a functional continental "bank". I think it can be done. It would just require a lot of capital, and you'd definitely have to be selling something to attract the kind of demand required to sustain it.
"bank" is a bit ambiguous, so I don't know exactly what you mean by this. I have talked about starting a bank which would be able to issue loans and work as a swiss bank for those tax heavy realms. If worked right I think it would be possible to have a cross continental bank that would allow individuals to transfer wealth from one Island to another, but I don't think tom would like that. If you want to discuss it further I would love to work with both of you on it.
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Indeed, the bank would need to be situated in a secure region, unlikely to be assaulted, where the region lord is willing to run a super-low tax rate.
You'd need several such locations, of course. Maybe, fora continent the size of Atamara, 2-3 "vaults," and then numerous "branches" where deposits/loans could be made, but large sums are not stored.
I think the Dwilight Trade Company on Dwilight could be a guild that could evolve into something like this, if it grows some more.
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This is partly what I wanted to do with this:
http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Hansa
I gave up, partly because the character had too much else going on to really push it, and partly for RL lack of time to start new storylines above the ones that started themselves, but I'd like to get back to it at some point. Tell me what you think.
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Become duke of a key stronghold with level 10 walls, 10k of the best militia, and 2k stored food. 8)
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Become duke of a key stronghold with level 10 walls, 10k of the best militia, and 2k stored food. 8)
...and then throw rocks at the neighbors.
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If you had enough realms borrowing funds from you, then you could offer some amount off the principle if they attack the realm that decides it doesn't need to pay. ;) Or you will just have to have a significant army of your own. Besides, having a bank on your side would be a rather good thing if you need to get involved in any conflicts and braking that tie would cause some incentive for the bank to fund your enemies.
In other words, no. there is no official way to make them pay up, but if you get all godfather about it you could make it work. (Thinking about an army of infiltrators ;D)
The amount of work required to pull such a thing off successfully is totally not worth the gains. They are more likely to band against you than against other people in debt like them, anyhow.
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I'm just wondering, how exactly does someone go about going down into BM history? I'm wondering because I'd also like to get a character to do just that, but I have no idea what sort of pre-reqs there are. What characters have already gone down in BM history?
I say it depends on how many continents you are considered notable.
I, for example, consider the Chénier family to be pretty well-known on Beluaterra. Been there for a long time, did a lot of messy things, messed with people from every realm, achieved many positions, founded the religion that got the spotlight of everyone's attention for so long, etc. And my bag is still full of tricks on that island.
On Dwilight, I can't say. I must have at least a moderate level of fame. Much more localized, though. Nobles from my realm know who I am, those of adjacent realms probably heard my name at least a few times, and so have rulers abroad. I've just hosted a tournament too, this aids, and I'm involved in a few things. But nothing truly big, shocking, or otherwise quite memorable beyond the limits of my own realm.
I don't know how many people outside of BT and Dwi know of my family. Such it is, really, fame is localized. Fine by me like that. And while I didn't look in a while, my family page, user page, and blood cult page had gotten quite a few views on the wiki last I checked.
If you want to be known game-wide, though, you'd need to have 4 active nobles in 4 different continents, probably best if its BT, Dwilight, FEI, and AT or EC. And you'd must be ambitious with them, ready to gamble all the time, not afraid to do shady deals with public repercussions, and participating in newspapers can help as well.
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As it happens, I remember Si ju Jarungi. But bounties aren't a big deal. That's just an infiltrator's blood-money, not really infamous or evil (especially since infils generally prefer NOT to be noticed). The real infamous ones are villains like Delvin, Aldo, or Handkor; or Doc, for example.
The path to fame is indeed the Wiki: or, the realm. So, for example, few people remember individual Avamarians. But Avamar itself remains part of the game's "collective memory." Or the zillion incarnations of Tuchanon (which, by the way, if/when I succeed in forming a secession, it will almost certainly be called Tuchanon, even though I never played in any of the earlier Tuchanon incarnations). Or Sirion and Doc, for example. Our Sordnaz and BoM. Or, heck, Irombrozia (though we were kind of a backwater, admittedly).
Or consider Mathurin Hossenfeffer: a well-run religion is also a path to lasting fame.
Most of the rulers you mentionned were there for so long they could blend in with the tapistry. Their fame often comes more from being a long-time figure head than any public action. Mind you, I'm not saying they didn't do anything, but foreigners rarely ever got any hint of it as far as I know.
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I am still amazed when people mention Argus. It was successful in outing a rebllion in Riombara, and then I had to leave the game due to time demands. I turned it over to someone else, and by all accounts they screwed it up. If people are still interested in this kind of stuff, I have been working on something much more insidious and I think I have the kinks worked out of the system. It's certainly been far more effective than Argus ever was, or could have been. I'm always looking for players to work with. Shoot me a PM.
The wiki makes it sound mysterious.
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Become duke of a key stronghold with level 10 walls, 10k of the best militia, and 2k stored food. 8)
I hope you'll have a rich city duke buddy to help you pay for all that, 'cause you certainly won't have enough on your stronghold's income.
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I want to find more things to accomplish.... And forge an empire that includes a stronghold with lvl 10 walls and a lvl 10 temple of the state religion. I also want to found a realm based on the Chaos Requiem and wreak bloody havoc across the lands.
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Want to challenge everyone in the realm to a duel of death and see how long my character can last. :)
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Form the Perthian Empire.
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Destroy the Perthian Empire.
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It's funny to me how many things on other people's lists that I've accomplished without really even thinking about it.
-Secede and found new realm. Check.
-Rebel and become leader on an island where you're already ruling. Check. (I think this was prior to any rules against it, but still.)
-Have an infiltrator known across 3 islands. Check.
-Start a religion that essentially revolves around worshiping your character and/or family. Check.
I just recently came back from a 3+ year absence and thus have created a new list. Mostly related to re-establishing my family name. Though I do have to say that 6 days in-realm with Outer Tilog has got to be a new game-wide record for election to a local lordship. ;D
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-Have an infiltrator known across 3 islands. Check.
That's too easy. You need to shoot for having an infiltrator who has been responsible for major, realm-altering changes across three islands, without anyone knowing it was you! Now that's a kick-ass infiltrator.
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That's too easy. You need to shoot for having an infiltrator who has been responsible for major, realm-altering changes across three islands, without anyone knowing it was you! Now that's a kick-ass infiltrator.
Now that is a very difficult task. Is that even possible? lol
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We will never know. As soon as someone claims credit for this achievement, it is no longer said achievement to be credited.
Logic ftw.
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We will never know. As soon as someone claims credit for this achievement, it is no longer said achievement to be credited.
Logic ftw.
Damn you for beating me too this.
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Overall goal:
Enliven the EC with a realm to be founded by a group of exceptionally active and deep characters. Dukes with immense power, Lords vying for favour, Knights running amok as they are wont to do, the entirety of a Kingdom working to help with (character) development for any that wish to join.
Not even a large realm, but something new that will help to redefine the continent in years to come.
((obviously, i would like to see myself as a king, but it's my idea so why not? 8) ))
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Overall goal:
Enliven the EC with a realm to be founded by a group of exceptionally active and deep characters. Dukes with immense power, Lords vying for favour, Knights running amok as they are wont to do, the entirety of a Kingdom working to help with (character) development for any that wish to join.
Not even a large realm, but something new that will help to redefine the continent in years to come.
((obviously, i would like to see myself as a king, but it's my idea so why not? 8) ))
Just bring me all these exceptionally active and deep characters to Enweil on BT and I'll help ya forge a realm. 8)
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Overall goal:
Enliven the EC with a realm to be founded by a group of exceptionally active and deep characters. Dukes with immense power, Lords vying for favour, Knights running amok as they are wont to do, the entirety of a Kingdom working to help with (character) development for any that wish to join.
Not even a large realm, but something new that will help to redefine the continent in years to come.
((obviously, i would like to see myself as a king, but it's my idea so why not? 8) ))
I'm onboard, but I wanna be King! See, we already have the drama down ;)