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BattleMaster => Locals => Dwilight => Topic started by: Glaumring the Fox on April 06, 2013, 04:45:38 PM
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Farronite republic, Asylon , Phantaria , south Astrum... Hell we'll even throw in south Iashular... Whats up my homies?
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Don't forget Terran. Terran still exists and is in the Mesoccidens.
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Writing diplomatic/political/secret letters like a madman, not like you bro, but like someone writing lots, lots and lots on limited time.
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Don't forget Terran. Terran still exists and is in the Mesoccidens.
Oh, Hi Terrab .. Umm whats up?
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Oh, Hi Terrab .. Umm whats up?
Being awesome.
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Working on some major events with Allison...
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Working on some major events with Allison...
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i lol'd
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Rynn really doesn't know his wife at all.
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That is so awesome.
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hehehehehe
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Boy im still laughing at that. Had to come back again just to watch all the face slaps....
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Phantaria, baby!
We're hungry and quiet! yeah! 8)
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News: the first major battle between Asylon and Astrum was a loss for Asylon just barely, picture two guys in a cage beating the crap out of eachother till both are bloody pulps and you get the picture. Also a small contingent of Corsanctum was in the battle. Lots of wounded on both sides,Lady Bucklefee was sadly killed. She will be avenged. I guess we're going for round 2 in a few days or week? We'll see. Sadly I missed the battle because of the season change in Dunnbrook. That being said we are pleased with the result, at least it wasn't a complete route and we both took a beating.
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Well, if you want to avenge Bucklefee, you should hang the general/marshal who called the attack.
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Our last general left in the middle of campaign because of a spat between him and another noble. It was not good considering the last general was doing well enough but the time wasted inbetween finding a new general and orders was costly. That being said we can recover from it. I find Asylonians can be a bit hotheaded and our own worst enemies. As soon as things are going good we start having little spats and though we encourage them as healthy I think many Asylonians are not aware of how much we have changed and that we are no longer just a small realm and that these spats have higher costs than they did in the past. We call it 'Halleria' syndrome, a syndrome where everything is going good and then one noble starts to panic and think because of one lost battle the war is in full retreat and panic and plotting takes over where rational thought once was. We haven't had the luxury that Astrum has had in fighting alongside various allies and campaigning for months on end. We have always had to fight at a disadvantage against larger forces and in wars with high stakes. We are a young realm, it takes time to find your own feet and probably 80% of Asylon is first time BM players. On the otherhand 90% of the realm is marching when called, fighting as one and learning to run a large war together.
Asylon has several councils, all of our councils are voluntary, none of the nobles on the council have to prove anything beyond a willingness to be active in the councils. It isnt a well oiled machine because of that but it allows even the newest player to have a say in Asylons direction. The military council is all volunteer, the diplomatic council is all volunteer, and the merchants council is all volunteer. They make their own policy and missions. The king can only suggest strategy to the military council, during war no matter the detriment the storm general is the one who makes the decisions, the council is there to advise. This was set up during my reign as to have everyone involved and a seperation of the powers, that is so the king cannot constantly meddle im the affairs of the councils, contrary to popular belief the king in Asylon is merely an idea man, its the councils that actually go about the policy.
The king can say lets attack Astrum, the council will weigh the idea, the nobles will debate a few measures, a deadline will be set for a decision, once the deadline is reached the council enacts the policy and the ranking nobles will take control.
So, that being said, yes we could blame the general but it comes down to decisions and strategy shared by the council.
Its not the most efficient way of doing things but unlike many kingdoms in Dwilight every noble can be apart of the direction of the realm it just takes volunteering for the job, no democracy, no safety net. So far we havent had too many issues, nobles will fight amongst eachother and nobles will leave or stop putting input into the councils or even sabotage decisions. That isnt a concern,those things happen anyways. What is does do is insure that the king remain an idea man and the councils the arm or brains behind the direction of the kingdom.
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We are a young realm,
Asylon is one of the older realms on the continent man.
You're not a young realm.
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Asylon is one of the older realms on the continent man.
You're not a young realm.
What is considered a young realm then?
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Anything formed in the past year or two? Asylon has been around quite a long time. They do, however, tend to have a very poor self-image, apparently. They were quiet, isolated, and irrelevant for quite a long time. They have only recently woken up and realized that there really is a world beyond their own borders.
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Anything formed in the past year or two? Asylon has been around quite a long time.
2010-05-11 Caerwyn - City of Echiur secedes to form the monarchy of Asylon. Cleon Cullom is its first Emperor.
Almost but not quite two years ago. Unless you speak in Dwilight years that is: Asylon was founded in the winter of year 10, when Allison was Grandmistress of Xinhai and just after Haruka took over Thulsoma.
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It's 2013 now. That date is almost 3 years ago.
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It's 2013 now. That date is almost 3 years ago.
Damn. I still write down 2012 sometimes. I really am bad at dates.
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What is considered a young realm then?
Phantaria? Saffalore? Swordfell?
Farronite Republic is younger than Asylon.
Maybe even the current Lurian iteration?
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What is considered a young realm then?
My meaning is that we are a young realm to mattering in world issues. For most of our history we lived as a poor realm and hated by Caerwyn. It wasnt till the Kabrinskian war that Asylon was capable of defending itself and making a name for itself. That isnt long ago. Before that we were fighting monsters and starving. So yes we are an old realm whose potential hasnt been realized until recently.
Part of Asylons image and isolation comes from being a sort of redheaded stepchild of the west, Caerwyn founded it and it and the Thulsoman refugees were invited by Greath Geg to help its founding. Once we arrived we realized after a few months that the emperor at the time wasnt a very active fellow. I had support from the Thulsoman nobility and some of the Caerwyn faction to lead a coup and I took the realm and steered it away from the Virovene type ending it was heading towards. The emperor wasnt communicative or very charismatic, he ran the realm without direction. The consensus sas that it was going to die if something didnt change, once the Thulsoman faction took control I installed a government that was composed of both sides and the council was composed of both sides, where before it was only the Caerwyn faction in control of the government and most regions, only one Thulsoman controlled a region, Vakreno heaps, which was mine. Once I took control I did away with the Caerwyn entitlements and worked to create unity. The Caerwyn faction originally didnt want SA theocrats in the realm, I founded the first SA temple in Vakreno and that caused Caerwyn to cut off diplomatic relations with Asylon.
We then tried to get closer with Astrum but because we werent a full theocracy and rather insignificant they rarely answered our letters, I tried to use what little power I had as a consul to get the theocracies to help us. They were not interested in helping us as we were insignificant and they thought we were loyal to Caerwyn. We then decided that we would go to the Moot and asked for membership and they told us a monarchy and in the messociddens we would not be welcomed as full members. Once again we were isolated. Our last option was relations with the Zuma.
The Asylon you have today is a result of lack of vision by our neighbors, diplomatic isolation and lack of friends has created the beast we are today. If Astrum had of been more friendly we would have easily become a good ally, same for the Moot... Or even Caerwyn. We are the result of failed leadership on part of all those realms.
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My meaning is that we are a young realm to mattering in world issues. For most of our history we lived as a poor realm and hated by Caerwyn. It wasnt till the Kabrinskian war that Asylon was capable of defending itself and making a name for itself. That isnt long ago. Before that we were fighting monsters and starving. So yes we are an old realm whose potential hasnt been realized until recently.
Well, you were basically a client state of Caerwyn's until we broke them. As I recall, you had to tread very lightly between them on one side and the Zuma on the other. That state of affairs ended a while ago however. What is new, I would say, is Asylon's desire to assert itself as a regional power player.
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You never considered that your betrayal of Caerwyn might have played against your admission to the moot? You were a proven backstabber...
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Well, you were basically a client state of Caerwyn's until we broke them. As I recall, you had to tread very lightly between them on one side and the Zuma on the other. That state of affairs ended a while ago however. What is new, I would say, is Asylon's desire to assert itself as a regional power player.
We werent a client state of Caerwyns since the coup. After that we were trying to get Astrum to take us under their wing but that didnt work out either. Asylon has never been accepted into the Dwilight community. The reason why I didnt found a theocracy after Thulsoma was because during that time Morek and Astrum and Libero considered Thulsoma to be insignificant. I think I pissed in a lot of cornflakes founding that realm where many had claim but none were able. We were isolated even there , Summerdale didnt trust us, Morek didnt communicate with us as equals, Libero wanted our land and Astrum was on the side of Summerdale. It wasnt until Averoth was founded that we had an ally there. I have played on Dwlight since day one as an outcast... :'(
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You never considered that your betrayal of Caerwyn might have played against your admission to the moot? You were a proven backstabber...
Oh you had no problem signing an alliance with Asylon though... You are a troll.
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Oh you had no problem signing an alliance with Asylon though... You are a troll.
I'd ally a great many people I don't like, if it serves my ends. I fail to see your point. Not to mention that allies are much easier to ditch than federation partners.
The context also wasn't the same, though. And you transpose your fear of SA onto everyone. You might believe that SA is the sole reason for everything that everyone does on Dwi, but it really isn't. SA is extremely passive unless you go out of your way to piss them off. Aurvandil and the Lurias are a million times more belligerent. When it came time to found the moot, fear of SA passed well after fear of rogues, fear of the Zuma, fear of the Lurias, fear of Madina/Cearwyn, and fear of lack of food (all in no particular order). Asylon might be scared !@#$less of SA, and SA might be behind every single action you guys take, but to claim that SA in any way stifles the South is ridiculous. The only strong bloc that ever invaded a weaker enemy for no reason whatsoever is the realm Asylon so graciously allied, the cheater's nest of Aurvandil.
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I'd ally a great many people I don't like, if it serves my ends. I fail to see your point. Not to mention that allies are much easier to ditch than federation partners.
The context also wasn't the same, though. And you transpose your fear of SA onto everyone. You might believe that SA is the sole reason for everything that everyone does on Dwi, but it really isn't. SA is extremely passive unless you go out of your way to piss them off. Aurvandil and the Lurias are a million times more belligerent. When it came time to found the moot, fear of SA passed well after fear of rogues, fear of the Zuma, fear of the Lurias, fear of Madina/Cearwyn, and fear of lack of food (all in no particular order). Asylon might be scared !@#$less of SA, and SA might be behind every single action you guys take, but to claim that SA in any way stifles the South is ridiculous. The only strong bloc that ever invaded a weaker enemy for no reason whatsoever is the realm Asylon so graciously allied, the cheater's nest of Aurvandil.
Well thanks for admitting to the forum what I've said all along about you being a two-faced snake and a flake. Chenier I'm going to be polite today to you and ask that you not parttake this conversation you are a troll. If everything I say has to be nitpicked down to its basic levels and everything I say totally ignored because my version of events means !@#$ all to you or anyone on dwilight, well I'm sorry but this is how I have experienced the game and this is how I saw the history around me, you have a problem with everything I say anyways. And right now your hatred of Aurvandiil and your insinuation that Asylon is a supporter of cheaters is not needed. I have reported you to the moderators and I hope that they can either remove you from my forum concersations or politely tell you to back off , either way I'm sick of your lies and bull!@#$ and I dont want to have anything to do with you IG and OOG.
And what fear of SA???? I was in SA I was an Consul in SA when Vellos was worshiping his Truins, I was a founder of a theocracy, I speak with the prophet even to this day, I have built temples and I led my armies into battle under the stars. I have no fear of SA. We in Asylon fear Astrum that is all. And Asylons hatred of Terran went way beyond my supposed betrayal. I was the one that kept Asylon friendly to the Moot, and constantly had to sway my fellow nobles from wanting to attack Terran for ages... Im done talking to you Chenier. You are a troll and have just come here to start trouble.
This song perfectly exemplifies the pain and lonliness in my heart and the sadness that Indirik and I have never been friends, this one is for you Indirik...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEcpYftPDbE
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Yeah...so far as I can tell, there wasn't a single inaccurate statement in Chénier's last post.
Don't get me wrong, from where I sit you can only believe two-thirds of what he says—but that post was entirely in that two-thirds. (And hey, that's up from half not too long ago! ;D )
You may object to the characterization of Asylon as "having allied with a realm that was led by cheaters," but it is a factually true statement. And...yeah, there's not a lot that Luria has done (or not done) for fear of SA. Obviously I can't speak authoritatively for what's gone on inside the Véinsørmoot, but I never really got the impression that they were terrified of SA. More like they were a bunch of relatively small realms (at the beginning) who needed to band together to survive in the hostile, semi-wild environment that the Occidens was back then.
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So does that make Asylon cheaters?
Do I really have to even dignify that with a response?
Of course it doesn't. I didn't say it did and neither did Chénier. Yes, it's a somewhat unpleasant implication, but if that was all you objected to, you could just as easily have responded to Chénier with something like, "Asylon are not cheaters. None of us knew that Aurvandil held cheaters, and allying with them doesn't make us cheaters any more than being allied with Irombrozia back in the day makes you a cheater because Twinblade had multis there." (Actually, you might not have been able to come up with the Irombrozia reference off the top of your head, but kudos to you if you could! ;D )
The point is, not a single thing Chénier said was false, so repeatedly calling him a liar makes you sound a bit crazy.
What he did was insult you, and one of the best ways to respond to guilt-by-association insults is to calmly and rationally show how obviously faulty they are.
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Do I really have to even dignify that with a response?
Of course it doesn't. I didn't say it did and neither did Chénier. Yes, it's a somewhat unpleasant implication, but if that was all you objected to, you could just as easily have responded to Chénier with something like, "Asylon are not cheaters. None of us knew that Aurvandil held cheaters, and allying with them doesn't make us cheaters any more than being allied with Irombrozia back in the day makes you a cheater because Twinblade had multis there." (Actually, you might not have been able to come up with the Irombrozia reference off the top of your head, but kudos to you if you could! ;D )
The point is, not a single thing Chénier said was false, so repeatedly calling him a liar makes you sound a bit crazy.
What he did was insult you, and one of the best ways to respond to guilt-by-association insults is to calmly and rationally show how obviously faulty they are.
What does any of this have to do with the Messociddens? I am going to ask to have Chenier removed from the conversation. I was calling him a lair regarding my past dealings with him over the last while. The main thing is is that he is using the cheating thing as a way to attack who we are OOG because his other rants regarding Aurvandiil didn't work to get the reaction he desired he is now turning to attack Asylons image and or (lol) reputation. Knowing very well that Asylon is not popular at all on the forums and that he can drive people away from us OOG/IG by spreading these types of rumours or accusations. Like Anaris said and I will rephrase it in my own way ' Asylon doesn't condone cheating nor has any cheaters, nor knew that Aurvandiil was cheating' So piss off! Chenier.
Upon reading what you posted once more made me realize my error, you make perfect sense. I was expecting an attack so hastily read over it. I would like to retract my call to the moderators to remove you and instead just remove Chenier.
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Well thanks for admitting to the forum what I've said all along about you being a two-faced snake and a flake.
Chenier I'm going to be polite today to you and ask that you not parttake this conversation you are a troll.
How is the the first statement at all being polite? If everything I say has to be nitpicked down to its basic levels and everything I say totally ignored because my version of events means !@#$ all to you or anyone on dwilight, well I'm sorry but this is how I have experienced the game and this is how I saw the history around me, you have a problem with everything I say anyways. And right now your hatred of Aurvandiil and your insinuation that Asylon is a supporter of cheaters is not needed. I have reported you to the moderators and I hope that they can either remove you from my forum concersations or politely tell you to back off , either way I'm sick of your lies and bull!@#$ and I dont want to have anything to do with you IG and OOG.
And what fear of SA???? I was in SA I was an Consul in SA when Vellos was worshiping his Truins, I was a founder of a theocracy, I speak with the prophet even to this day, I have built temples and I led my armies into battle under the stars. I have no fear of SA. We in Asylon fear Astrum that is all. And Asylons hatred of Terran went way beyond my supposed betrayal. I was the one that kept Asylon friendly to the Moot, and constantly had to sway my fellow nobles from wanting to attack Terran for ages... Im done talking to you Chenier. You are a troll and have just come here to start trouble.
This song perfectly exemplifies the pain and lonliness in my heart and the sadness that Indirik and I have never been friends, this one is for you Indirik...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEcpYftPDbE
And what fear of SA????
Weren't ever any intentions? So when Asylon is attacked by the huge SA alliance it was never intended to destroy us? Just like now? You just want to whittle us down to little bits right? If Asylon ever even managed to grab one piece of land from Astrum it'd be our death knell... Dont you see it is SA that has created this fight to the death, massive alliances , alliances that make no sense like Asylon and Aurvandiil, or the Moot so scared they wont even fight eachother. SA hasnt attacked SA in years, your huge federation/alliance has created this fear. When Asylon attacked Kabrinskia it was out of complete fear, our choices were made out of complete fear, fear because Astrum the killer of Caerwyn, of Averoth of Everguard and slayer of Saxon Thulsoma, Virovene I think was setting up a realm next to us that from day one was threatening us and setting up to kill us, to wipe us out and you try to twist this around that Asylon is out to kill all of you? All I have heard since day one of these conflicts is ' oh we will take Itau and let wimpy king turin rule it, Chenier boasting of setting up kingdoms in Kosht, talk of giving Itau to FR... And then you wonder when a kingdom on the edge of the world with no allies acts bellicose and says tough things. If we didnt at least put on a tough face you'd !@#$ all over us. Who is Asylon going to call to help , Terran? What a waste of time that was. D'Hara? They couldnt even be bothered to help the Moot, the Zuma? Oh c'mon there is so many rules involved to get their help its painful. Asylon stands alone against Astrum, Iashular, Corsanctum and Morek... And you say you want small border wars and smaller conflicts... Astrum, come at us alone you cowards. We'll drop our alliances. You wouldnt dare drop yours because you cant stand on your own two feet.
Btw, just because someone disagrees with you does not make them a troll.
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Penchant, Anaris, Chenier, Indirik... Any others stopping by for usual feeding frenzy? I am aware that I do not have a single friend on this forum. You win. Now can we please go back to talking about the Messocidens?
I quit, im done with this.
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Do I really have to even dignify that with a response?
Of course it doesn't. I didn't say it did and neither did Chénier. Yes, it's a somewhat unpleasant implication, but if that was all you objected to, you could just as easily have responded to Chénier with something like, "Asylon are not cheaters. None of us knew that Aurvandil held cheaters, and allying with them doesn't make us cheaters any more than being allied with Irombrozia back in the day makes you a cheater because Twinblade had multis there." (Actually, you might not have been able to come up with the Irombrozia reference off the top of your head, but kudos to you if you could! ;D )
The point is, not a single thing Chénier said was false, so repeatedly calling him a liar makes you sound a bit crazy.
What he did was insult you, and one of the best ways to respond to guilt-by-association insults is to calmly and rationally show how obviously faulty they are.
I never even said that Asylon was guilty by association. Any association to Aurvandil is to demonstrate Asylon's own hypocritical double-standards as to what is fine and what isn't. Obvious cheaters were glorified, while a coalition of small struggling realms was vilified. All with a discourse of large realms being bad (Asylon and Aurvandil both being large realms) and small realms (like those Aurvandil and Asylon attacked) are good.
I was rather commenting the fact that Glaumring likes to villify SA by saying how unfun the bloc is and how it ruins Dwi, or just about. That you were once a member of it doesn't contradict this statement in any way. And yet, the only people SA bores is its own, and the only outsiders they bother are those who go out of their way to stir up trouble with them. If Asylon couldn't become friends with Terran, with D'Hara, with Kabrinskia, or with Astrum... ever thought that maybe that just goes to say a lot more about Asylon than any of these other realms?
And yea, my one dwi character is flexible when it comes to diplomacy. Should I be ashamed of this? Unlike you, I am not the same as my characters. I also played a dude who thought it was totally cool to rip the hearts out of living victims. Do you believe I seriously think we should do more of this IRL to please the gods? Machiavel walks his path. If you walk in the same direction, he'll walk with you regardless of what he thinks of you (for most cases). Walk a different path, and he'll let you walk it alone regardless of prior relations. Doesn't mean he's honorless or that he'll ditch allies for no reason. Just means you can't make him do things he didn't already plan to do.
But really, all I had said for you to call me a troll is that you should have considered your relations with Caerwyn to, just maybe, have impacts on your relations with others? Caerwyn had sympathizers abroad, and you obviously never considered that pissing off Caerwyn could also result in pissing off their sympathizers. Just as you apparently can't comprehend how your relations with Fiorenza and Aurvandil screwed Asylon's relations with others like Astum and Corsanctum... You play the poor underdog that was forced into isolation by mean bullies next to you, but Asylon is a realm nobody really cares about that dug its own hole to isolate itself in. And I find your self-victimization to be quite tiring.
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hey, rather than all this spiteful garbage, can we please get off the forums and dump some cool RPs in the game, mmk? better use of everyone's time and energy. this thread is dead in the water and makes me want to hurl.
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hey, rather than all this spiteful garbage, can we please get off the forums and dump some cool RPs in the game, mmk? better use of everyone's time and energy. this thread is dead in the water and makes me want to hurl.
Agreed! ;D
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Mesoccidens!
Hireshmont is in the Mesoccidens.
ipso facto: mesoccidens is awesome.
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Mesoccidens!
Hireshmont is in the Mesoccidens.
ipso facto: mesoccidens is awesome.
You were the person who taught me the region names back in the day.
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You were the person who taught me the region names back in the day.
The widely known and accepted geographic names/areas are one of the best things about Dwilight that set it apart from the other islands.
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The widely known and accepted geographic names/areas are on the best things about Dwilight that set it apart from the other islands.
Dwilight has areas that are easier to define than most continets. Also, the size of Dwilight matters with that too.
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Dwilight has areas that are easier to define than most continets. Also, the size of Dwilight matters with that too.
Sort of. Even things like mountain ranges, forests, or lakes lack widely used or recognized names on most islands, though.
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I have something named after me. D'awww :)
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Also, I switched allegiance after Glaumring took Via Duchy right after the last Duchess abdicated, even though the agreed procedure was that the lords/ladies of the Duchy could choose who would be next in line (in the absence of an 'heir' as appointed by the last duke/duchess).
With that said, it was a very calculated move of mine. I had been diplomacy praising Kabrinskia for a week prior. Switching Uppervia split Asylon into two, which provided a reprieve for Kabrinskia for the war. It was very serendipity that the Long Winter came right after, and that GF had enough(ish) food while Asylon didn't.
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I have something named after me. D'awww :)
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Also, I switched allegiance after Glaumring took Via Duchy right after the last Duchess abdicated, even though the agreed procedure was that the lords/ladies of the Duchy could choose who would be next in line (in the absence of an 'heir' as appointed by the last duke/duchess).
With that said, it was a very calculated move of mine. I had been diplomacy praising Kabrinskia for a week prior. Switching Uppervia split Asylon into two, which provided a reprieve for Kabrinskia for the war. It was very serendipity that the Long Winter came right after, and that GF had enough(ish) food while Asylon didn't.
There is no way in hell you were going to get the Via duchy, you were known to be trouble for quite some time in Asylon. Our private talks were about the fact you had way too many titles for a new noble and that you would sit in Kabrinskian lands for weeks at a time. It was then that I changed our lords election laws back to the old ones that I had installed, for some reason one of our previous rulers had negated monthly elections for judge and banker, I cant remember which one but we decided you couldnt be trusted so all of a sudden elections started and you lost to Heinrich , who I had asked to run against you. You think that your traitor ways caught us by surprise? We knew for a long long time, there is very little information that the king doesnt know, the problem with the information was there was a lot of OOG and IG gut feeling that didnt quite warrant outright banning your character. I knew you were going to eventually go rogue I just didnt know when and my character couldnt act on the information until it was too late. I do know that part pf the reason you went rogue was because of our bickering on these forums. Your OOG hatred formed your IG opinion of a war you knew nothing about.
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We werent a client state of Caerwyns since the coup. After that we were trying to get Astrum to take us under their wing but that didnt work out either. Asylon has never been accepted into the Dwilight community. The reason why I didnt found a theocracy after Thulsoma was because during that time Morek and Astrum and Libero considered Thulsoma to be insignificant. I think I pissed in a lot of cornflakes founding that realm where many had claim but none were able. We were isolated even there , Summerdale didnt trust us, Morek didnt communicate with us as equals, Libero wanted our land and Astrum was on the side of Summerdale. It wasnt until Averoth was founded that we had an ally there. I have played on Dwlight since day one as an outcast... :'(
On the contrary, I had an excellent relationship with Moritz von Igelfeld when Rowan was Vasilif of Astrum. I rather liked Asylon back then, there just wasn't much Asylon was willing or able to do for us while Caerwyn was still in the picture, but that was perfectly understandable under the circumstances.
What is perhaps true is that Glaumring has been something of an outsider for much of his career, a quality you seem to have imprinted onto Asylon when that's not necessarily the case. Glaumring has always forged his own path. He's unpredictable and volatile, two qualities that make him hard to trust or sympathize with. When he's the one running a realm, those qualities are associated with the realm; after all, if you can't trust the ruler, how can you trust the realm? Food for thought.
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I've ran Asylon on and off and i'll tell you this the core nobles of Asylon. Ok here is the big secret, years ago I used to play an online Mmorpg called 'UO' and was apart of an Orc guild called Shadowclan, we also played on the UO freeshard Angel Island, where I ran a clan there. Anyways you can go to shadowclan.org and see for yourself, search ' Laghed' and see my forum posts there. Anyways we were all online friends for years and one of the Orcs said ' heyguys check out this BM game' and all of us being into heavy RP said ' ok' and we had like 30 of us join Sartania and we spoke glittural english like ' mi nub gun gib lat ani ting, lats iz dumhed' which is translated ' Im not going to give you anything, you are dumb' which was orcish speak. So anyways, someone was afraid we were multi's or a clan and we didnt know the rules back then so of course we stepped on some toes, anyways we all enjoyed playing with eachother, so like out of the 30 orcs only about 5 or 6 still play and when Dwilight started we were all scattered around the map doing our own thing but ever so often we would still communicate IG, thats how I knew that the Zuma had two priests go out to form two seperate religions way way back and a few other things. So what happened is that Grimrog eventually joined Thulsoma and Graeth was in Asylon and we still work together IG( i wont mention other names etc out of privacy but they are welcome to let themselves be known if they want on their own time)Ever so often we send out a message to the old clan and maybe someone joins for a week gets bored etc or some stay. We dont control where they go or what they do, they can do whatever they want etc, its not an Aurvandiil thing etc, anyways I used to lead a guild of SC of about a 100 or so orcs and im well know for being a nut who gets !@#$ done ... Anyways so when I took over Asylon I took a lot of the tough Orc style roleplay that we thought was fun and started to RP it in Asylon, trickery, double crossing dark and evil instead of all shiny and bright, it is more fun to play an underdog and since we have played hated orcs for years it came natural to align Asylon rp and policy with that style. Ok, so anyways last year my sister joined Asylon, she lives in BC married with child etc is a gamer and we play together, you all know who she is and she invited a bunch of her friends to come play etc, so thats why Asylons numbers grow and the realm grows because contrary to my popularity in BM I am well liked as a person outside of BM, for some reason you guys hate me. Anyways, my attitude and way of dealing with people has kind of began to blur with the tough orcish RP and all of your own more panzee golden knight type RP.
So there you go, the secret history of Asylon , Thulsoma and Dwilight... Who knows how many orcs are now in your own lands? Even I am not sure, but we are out there...
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...because contrary to my popularity in BM I am well liked as a person outside of BM, for some reason you guys hate me.
A number of us have told you multiple times why you're disliked. You either seem not to understand, or dismiss it with comments along the lines of, "But it's fun to be disliked/unpredictable!"
So don't try to tell us at this point that you don't know why you're not liked around here.
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I've ran Asylon on and off and i'll tell you this the core nobles of Asylon. Ok here is the big secret, years ago I used to play an online Mmorpg called 'UO' and was apart of an Orc guild called Shadowclan, we also played on the UO freeshard Angel Island, where I ran a clan there.
Sorry to disappoint, but that's no secret...
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Sorry to disappoint, but that's no secret...
UO rules...
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Please note: I didn't suggest that you quit the game, or that you stop playing the way that you do. Honestly, I don't think that Glaumring is particularly bad for the game.
I noted that I object to you coming on the forum and claiming that you don't know why you as a player or Glaumring as a character are disliked, because the reasons have all been stated ad nauseam.
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Please note: I didn't suggest that you quit the game, or that you stop playing the way that you do. Honestly, I don't think that Glaumring is particularly bad for the game.
I noted that I object to you coming on the forum and claiming that you don't know why you as a player or Glaumring as a character are disliked, because the reasons have all been stated ad nauseam.
Oh im not worried about Glaumring being hated, thats normal all great men are hated by inferiors. Only other great men realize the value of another, we are a rare breed. The ones who hate are blinded, they are reckless, they are like rabid seething dogs. I hate no one for it is useless and it is the tool of the useless, the jealous and the fool. Instead , I love everyone and pity those who do not or cannot the same. As the illustrious Ozzy Osbourne once said ' be careful who you !@#$ on your way up the ladder because one day you might have to climb down'
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Holy Crap. What UP server? I used to play an orc clan on the great lakes server!
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Seige Perilous and Catskills. I was Laghed on SP and Laghed on Angel Island. Its where my whole play as the underdog mentality came from, purposefully limit your character to create challenge, dont use the best equipment etc, do not use massive alliances etc. there was ORC and UND( undead) they were the only alliances ever in their decade long history. I brought that philosophy to BM. Its how I have run Asylon, and its how I've dealt with enemies and allies. This is why the Terran debacle hurt so much, I was playing with the SC/UND mindset, Terran had no idea what level of dedication that entailed. No matter who is wrong or right in the relationship you fight and die for eachother no questions asked. I think thats what I was thinking an alliance could mean on BM but realized many of you do not have the same concept of loyalty or history that us SC players have. Its not your fault you think like humans :P
To anyone who has no idea what im talking about check out SC, the best roleplaying community online and some of the nicest people I have ever had the chance to play with ever.
http://shadowclan.org/
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Holy Crap. What UP server? I used to play an orc clan on the great lakes server!
Did you play on GL with the acronym (Orc) ? That shard was apparently the first UO orc clan. No wonder you are such a shifty tricky human, you are of the same breed as me lol.
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I'm an orc clan veteran too. It's probably why I like it when people chastise D'Hara so much. In UO humans came to the orc fort regularly to smack talk before we demanded tribute and smashed their heads in. Actually, no, I usually got my head smashed in... good meat shield material...
oh well. I learned in those days being the bad guy is quite a bit of fun. :D
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Hey, I don't dislike the player or the characters. I don't understand the characters half the time, but I really think maybe that some comments are being taken too personally. Nobody that plays this game—and certainly nobody that posts on the forums—is immune from some kind of criticism. I can be condescending, for example.
That said, if you DO feel like the attacks are a little too personal and too frequent, then that alone should be enough reason for the people involved to pause and remind themselves that they're playing a game, on the internet, with real people.
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I'm an orc clan veteran too. It's probably why I like it when people chastise D'Hara so much. In UO humans came to the orc fort regularly to smack talk before we demanded tribute and smashed their heads in. Actually, no, I usually got my head smashed in... good meat shield material...
oh well. I learned in those days being the bad guy is quite a bit of fun. :D
Where did you play? What shard?
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I used to attack the orcs as well. I played as Frederick the IX. I had a house in the heart Forest
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I used to attack the orcs as well. I played as Frederick the IX. I had a house in the heart Forest
lol, I didn't play GL but I do remember the heart forest.
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when and my character couldnt act on the information until it was too late. I do know that part pf the reason you went rogue was because of our bickering on these forums. Your OOG hatred formed your IG opinion of a war you knew nothing about.
Uh, no. For a very long time (ever since the fall of Saxon Thulsoma) Halleria's goals had been to 1) spread the SA to all corners of Dwilight and 2) bring about the fall of Allison Kabrinski. You, IG, were too unstable for any meticulous and fine planning. Hence, Halleria had to free herself from your rule in a way that would still suit my top aims.
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Uh, no. For a very long time (ever since the fall of Saxon Thulsoma) Halleria's goals had been to 1) spread the SA to all corners of Dwilight and 2) bring about the fall of Allison Kabrinski. You, IG, were too unstable for any meticulous and fine planning. Hence, Halleria had to free herself from your rule in a way that would still suit my top aims.
No, Halleria... Do I have to start bringing in the other players who helped me come up with the plan? It wasn't just myself, it was a group of us that decided that you were not to be trusted long before your choice. If I had of had IG reasons or knowledge I would have banished you, as a matter of fact you got lucky because I was considering banning you the very day you switched sides just because I couldn't stand you on the forums talking !@#$ when you did but had no IG reason to, which sucks from an OOG standpoint but I refused to use OOG knowledge to affect my characters even though the result was detrimental to my realm. You based all of your choices off of OOG reaction and information, you were not part of any planning, no secret councils, no private letters, you were not trusted and you proved to us that we were right. That is why you slowly started to lose your titles and that is why at one point we considered kicking you out of Uppervia because it was a strategic area that you could not be trusted with. The annoying thing is that I could not react IG because #1 you never really spoke IG, you didn't even try to roleplay your character, one day you wrote up some laws for the realm, and then you were silent for weeks and then we asked you to get out of Kabrinskian lands and come down and help us, and then you switched sides. There wasn't very much great RP to go on, or even complaints, basically all there was was your piss poor attitude on the forums and thats all we had to go on. I am willing to bet a $100 bucks you switched sides because I admonished you on the forum about dumb things you had said.
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Moderator warning: let's cool things off just a little bit, and think about how you might hurt someone before you post.
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I may have not talked to Glaumring much, but rest assured I was in correspondence with a lot of other people. My actions were not a result of OOG information -- they were, as I have said before, long-drawn plans.
Moderator note: if you don't like Glaumring's posts, why are you replying to them? If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.
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Moderator note: I'm not kidding. Deleted rudeness. Next time I close the thread.
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Thank you Mods. :)
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Your above post is something that greatly annoyes me. You claim to know why Halleria switched sides despite what the player said. You admit you were about to ban someone for OOC reasons, and then accuse Feylonis as lying to us and stating that the only reason Halleria switched sides was for OOC reasons. Your perception that you know everyone else's motivations all the time and that they are just lying about it is greatly annoying and quite rude, IMO.
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In any case, Allison Kabrinski is now a non-entity. #2 goal achieved -- I wonder if I can befriend the new Kabrinski that will land on Dwilight. Then we might see goal #1 come to fruition :D
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In any case, Allison Kabrinski is now a non-entity. #2 goal achieved -- I wonder if I can befriend the new Kabrinski that will land on Dwilight. Then we might see goal #1 come to fruition :D
Oh, this sparked my curiosity, is she dead?
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Not quite dead yet. Soon enough though.
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Not quite dead yet. Soon enough though.
Just wait and see the Zuma go torch you afterwards.
Because the Zuma are fun like that. They don't like players interacting between themselves, they like to step in to prevent such things. Who was that D'Haran traitor again, who got executed because of his crimes and then the Zuma raided D'Hara in retaliation despite there being no apparent connection, either prior, during, or for a long time after the event until it was revealed OOC? Was it Raziel? Yea... The Zuma like to pledge to protect people without actually telling anyone. Considering how friendly-friendly they have been with Allison, a repeat of this scenario would not surprise me.
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Just wait and see the Zuma go torch you afterwards.
Because the Zuma are fun like that. They don't like players interacting between themselves, they like to step in to prevent such things. Who was that D'Haran traitor again, who got executed because of his crimes and then the Zuma raided D'Hara in retaliation despite there being no apparent connection, either prior, during, or for a long time after the event until it was revealed OOC? Was it Raziel? Yea... The Zuma like to pledge to protect people without actually telling anyone. Considering how friendly-friendly they have been with Allison, a repeat of this scenario would not surprise me.
Rumor has it that Allison and Haktoo spawned a love child.
The new Kabrinski character will be a daemon-human half breed with a hell of a temper.
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Rumor has it that Allison and Haktoo spawned a love child.
The new Kabrinski character will be a daemon-human half breed with a hell of a temper.
Considering that they are both female that would make the child a very interesting one.
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The real question is:
Will we get to torture Allison before she dies?
I imagine we'd get some fun stuff out of that.
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The real question is:
Will we get to torture Allison before she dies?
I imagine we'd get some fun stuff out of that.
No, sadly not. It will be a mercy killing in all likelihood, though I will let dustole explain further if he wishes to, rather than explain the situation myself.
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No, sadly not. It will be a mercy killing in all likelihood, though I will let dustole explain further if he wishes to, rather than explain the situation myself.
Nobody needs to know she was tortured before being executed. ;)
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Considering that they are both female that would make the child a very interesting one.
Life finds a way.
LIFE. FINDS. A. WAY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkWeMvrNiOM
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Life finds a way.
LIFE. FINDS. A. WAY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkWeMvrNiOM
hahahaha, best post in a long time!
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Life finds a way.
LIFE. FINDS. A. WAY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkWeMvrNiOM
hahahaha wow
Perth wins BM, I'm out.
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No, sadly not. It will be a mercy killing in all likelihood, though I will let dustole explain further if he wishes to, rather than explain the situation myself.
PSH.
Put'er on the rack!!!!
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Oh you did want that didnt you Vellos!
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Absolutely!
I want'er to spill the beans. Imagine all the delightful chaos that would be caused by having sunlight thrown on all her intrigues!
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Absolutely!
I want'er to spill the beans. Imagine all the delightful chaos that would be caused by having sunlight thrown on all her intrigues!
Just knowing who she has been talking to would be worth knowing!
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Just knowing who she has been talking to would be worth knowing!
No kidding.
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I must admit I was a but curious too but that would have been out of character for Khari.
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I must admit I was a but curious too but that would have been out of character for Khari.
Make Arya do it.
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Well I didnt order her NOT to but requested she ignore you. Khari would not have ever ordered such a thing.
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Well I didnt order her NOT to but requested she ignore you. Khari would not have ever ordered such a thing.
Bah!
Torture is really under-used.
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Torturing Allison would've yielded something equivalent to the force of 1000 WikiLeaks. Would've been worth it for that alone. :'(
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Hum... is torture shared realm-wide? If a Judge tortures and then kills a character without telling anyone.... then no one knows right?
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Correct.
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Hum... is torture shared realm-wide? If a Judge tortures and then kills a character without telling anyone.... then no one knows right?
Correct, unless the dude creates a new character and RPs finding the tortured body or something like that.
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Torturing Allison would've yielded something equivalent to the force of 1000 WikiLeaks. Would've been worth it for that alone. :'(
True... AllisonLeaks, if you will.
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Seriously.
Major missed opportunity.
Allison could have caused chaos in death equal to or greater than all the chaos caused in her life.
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Perhaps I wished to prevent something known...
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Seriously.
Major missed opportunity.
Allison could have caused chaos in death equal to or greater than all the chaos caused in her life.
Yeah, if your doing shenanigans with Allison, its probably best to let Allison die with all her secrets then risk yours being known to the judge.
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Yeah, if your doing shenanigans with Allison, its probably best to let Allison die with all her secrets then risk yours being known to the judge.
Bah.
The judge could have done it secretly.