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East Island / Re: Lions vs Tiramorans: the petty war of the South!
« on: May 14, 2015, 05:45:01 PM »
About the war: it looks like Vix is taking over Dimwood, the Tiramoran war goal. Meanwhile Perdan is taking over Ar Mosul. Fronts are shifting, but I'll believe that in a week or so Vix will have taken Dimwood and Ar Mosul will still be theirs. That will balance things out (certainly because Dimwood borders BOTH capitals).

Vix actually won battles in the past week. Not sure if apathy will still set in after those events. We'll see. Perdan could be more communicative, but I suppose I can't demand everyone to constantly chatter, and it's proving hard for myself to do that as well. Hence why I continue to strive for a division of positions. As such the burden is shared, as well.

And yes, perhaps a pre-defined war is not ideal. I'll counter all those arguments, though, by stating we are in a balanced war with very frequent battles, while the others on the continent (or entire other continents) are sitting around idle boring the players of this game. I have repeatedly seen it written that BM is to be played like you would play a boardgame with friends. Well, I have the feeling we're playing a version of Risk, and it's definitely not set in the cold war period. I'll go even further: I am a big fan of Paradox' Grand Strategy Games. In those games (in accordance to history), it is the norm to declare war on someone with the specific goal of taking a region (varying in size). It's even impossible to kill a realm that is not tiny. Perhaps Battlemaster's community has evolved to a point where war often leads to destruction or turning a realm irrelevant. Considering that, I prefer this war over the countless of other wars in Battlemaster that have more vague declarations of wars, often boiling down to "a slight has been made" or "this is not in our geopolitical interest". The war between Perdan and Vix is about real ground, a real region. It doesn't go further than that, but does it really have to? I disagree. It's possible, but not necessary. We have chosen the latter option. It's a valid choice, that benefit both realms the most. Besides, by turning this into a defined not-entirely-destructive one versus one, we ensured that both realms would not get roflstomped by some bigger realm. As well as ensuring that both realms are now the core of this war, not some auxiliary force that supports a much bigger army. Also, not having to account for allies makes planning your battles and wars a thousand times easier.

I honestly have no qualms about what this war is, even if it may be perceived as a fake war. I know I am doing the right thing for my realm and I know Zakky has the same idea. The single most important thing you do as a ruler is creating and nurturing a fun experience for the players who have chosen to play in your realm. I am completely confident that I am doing this. Any outside criticism is irrelevant to me.

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Dwilight / Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
« on: May 14, 2015, 12:04:11 AM »
The best part is this secession came as a total surprise! Go Morek Civil War!

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Beluaterra / Re: The War.
« on: May 10, 2015, 10:57:55 PM »
Come to the Goat City again! Chilperik needs entertainment!

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South Island / Re: Siege of Toren Stronghold
« on: May 07, 2015, 01:24:11 PM »
As a member of Sandalak I regularly protest in the realm against this course of action. We are more or less allying with infidels against infidels. Fanaticism clearly dictates all infidels must burn. Let's attack Ikalak!

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BM General Discussion / Re: What we need is young blood
« on: May 06, 2015, 10:09:36 PM »
Pfrt, I applied so much pressure to my friends to play this game, Lorgan is still around. 8)

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East Island / Re: Lions vs Tiramorans: the petty war of the South!
« on: May 04, 2015, 09:32:37 PM »
UPDATE

The Tiramoran military seems to be running crooked ever since they bravely died on the walls of Bisciye. The attempts to break the takeover in Woolton only scratched the Lion, causing it to speed up efforts to incorporate the region. This has now been done: Woolton flies the Perdanese banner! It was mentioned however that the Tiramoran military leaders were rather new players. I'm assuming they are quickly learning more about the game, and will soon be able to challenge us properly (well, like the first two battles, really).

Considering this was one of the two war goals in this war, Perdan now has a distinct advantage, region-wise. I am sure that Vix will do everything they can to take the region back and in return take over Dimwood. We'll see what happens next.

In addition, several nobles from other realms seem to wish to scout our regions. Like, allover the place. Will this escalate the conflict and put Perdan/Vix against several realms? Probably not, it'll probably be defused, in order to keep this war small.

Oh, also good news: in this war, infiltrators will not be banished when caught for their actions. We're trying to let infiltrators have more freedom and certainty, so they stick around longer.

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East Island / Re: Lions vs Tiramorans: the petty war of the South!
« on: April 29, 2015, 10:43:28 AM »
UPDATE

In a twist of events, Perdan's general sent the orders meant for the realm to the ruler channel. A mistake, obviously, but we stood by our orders. Vix seemed to want to profit from this legitimately obtained information but forgot Bisciye has lvl 2 walls. Was this all a very elaborate ruse by Perdan's general or did Vix oversee some details? Anyway, the Tiramorans bravely charged onto the walls of Bisciye but were stopped short of taking the fortifications themselves. Yet another battle two regions away from Aix! (And three regions away from Partora. Vix is totally commiting)

Perdan now has 20 nobles. A net gain of about 7 nobles in a week and a half. Starting this war was a good decision so far. Nobles literally flock to the banner quoting "a need for action". If only I could write to members of other realms.  Oh well. It seems Vix isn't seeing an increase of nobles that much, so anyone looking to join one of both realms... Perdan still, since it's my realm, but in the future my propaganda shall try to divide nobles between Vix and Perdan equally!

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BM General Discussion / Re: East Continent vs. Far East
« on: April 27, 2015, 06:57:43 PM »
I am pretty sure getting destroyed is not fun. I haven't heard anyone say they enjoyed getting destroyed. That is probably where the problem lies. People don't want to lose and get their realm destroyed because their realm is their investment. They invested time and energy and suddenly you lose everything you worked on for years.

Time and energy only serve to create fun. For yourself and other players. While longterm plans are nice and give a lot of fulfillment when they come to completion, more often they do not. Perhaps we should think short-term more? Like, you know, I believe we are doing.

As to the actual point of this topic: I'm also in Arcaea, though as an (inactive) priestess I might be biased. It seems the war isn't highly entertaining for most of the island, though. I do believe however that those who actually join the Arcaean army are getting some fun. But as mentioned before, Arcaea is the biggest realm on the island, so evidently it will see most of the big battles.

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East Island / Re: Lions vs Tiramorans: the petty war of the South!
« on: April 26, 2015, 03:20:50 PM »
A few reasons this didn't happen:

First, I was away for a few days when Fleugs' character was elected. During the time I was gone, Fleugs had sent a message to the rulers announcng himself, and stating that he would be sending a letter of introduction to those rulers that were important. I'm paraphrasing here, I don't remember the exact words. Essentially "If I want to talk to you, I'll send you a letter." Given this, and that it had been two or three days since he was elected, the presence or absence of a letter from the new ruler is an important piece of information. Saying "I'll send you a letter if you're important to me" and then NOT sending a letter is a VERY important piece of information, and a deliberate snub, *especially* when your realms had been in direct negotiations to sign an alliance.

Second, Fleugs isn't a new player who doesn't know how things work. He's been around the block a few times, and knows how to play the game.

Indirik is entirely right. The only reason why Odoaker would seek an alliance with Eponnly at this point is if it meant a larger realm could be broken down into several realms (or to stop a large realm from expanding even further at Eponnlyn's cost). But really, Eponnlyn is only considered a possible tool to use in order to break up larger realms before it itself is broken up in two pieces. Now, of course, you will not hear that explicitly said ingame. That would be very foolish. But perhaps now you can understand Perdan's new course better.

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BM General Discussion / Re: East Continent vs. Far East
« on: April 26, 2015, 03:16:14 PM »
The entire "we had this and that planned" largely depends on the actions of someone else. If that person is unpredictive or simply does not care, the plan is spoiled. Take up your own destiny and don't rely on half a continent to be embroiled in war. Besides, is such a huge conflict really much more fun? It might be for the large realms, but the smaller realms would turn insignificant. Does a war need broad justification on the ruler channel, if there's still a chance that a realm who came up with a good casus belli gets wiped out. You may as well not quote any reason to go to war and be done with it. Long-term planning, waiting and lurking around other realms does not at all make your war better. You risk doing dangerous stuff, like overthinking the implications of your war, or fearing destruction. There are nine realms on EC. This means that, not counting Vix and Perdan because they are at war, seven realms have all the things they need to seek conflict with eachother, and for once perhaps try not to work with massive alliances that are no good anyway.

As Constantine has narrowed it down, praise comes when you give your realm fun. As a ruler, you have one main goal: keeping your realm fun. I did not chose to rely on other realms (and thus, other rulers) for that, but I decided that perhaps Vix might be open to the same concept. They were, we are now having a war, the lesson is that you shouldn't rely on big alliances because, twist or turn it like you want, big alliances are detrimental to the environment of a continent.

I'll go even further: if Eponllyn wished to take/hand over Partora, what would that leave of Vix? I'd rather see Vix keep Partora and Eponllyn (and Caligus, Sirion, Nivemus) lose a city to a new realm, really. Besides, all this talk about what could have been is moot. It didn't happen.


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East Island / Re: Lions vs Tiramorans: the petty war of the South!
« on: April 24, 2015, 12:20:36 AM »
Personally speaking I find the concept of war games a bit bland, that is what SI is for, when you buy into that you check into that type of game/fun.  For me on EI, Bel or Dw there is supposed to be some decent intrigue leading into a war, so that there is something you can have some passion to fight for, that is what is supposed to add depth to the game.

There's more to it than would appear on the surface, but spoiling intrigue... well... then it stops being intrigue.

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East Island / Re: Lions vs Tiramorans: the petty war of the South!
« on: April 23, 2015, 11:11:31 PM »
I may have been aware of it on some level, but this is, for example, the first time I hear Sirion's army marched south. Ironically I maintain some contact with Sirion's general, so I suppose I should've known (maybe she said it and I forgot). Oh, and it's true that I didn't address Eponnlyn. Well, I did. To be fair I mistook Vita as Eppy's ruler (that shows how much I know/care, right?) and talked with him. I think I may have addressed you. I had the intention, at least, but I suppose other things occupy me now.

It's true that I was aware of the conflict between Perdan and Vix branching out into a larger war. It's also very true that I am intentionally trying to avoid that. Don't ask me which realm would be on which side. I really have no idea, except for believing Eponnlyn would probably ally with us against Sirion, Nivemus, Vix and Caligus. Not sure about the last realm. It should be stressed that Fiona, in her latter days, barely said anything. Perdan was a desolate place. And even if Caligus does not take any side in the conflict, I would still pass for a war on that scale. Perhaps my years of BM have made me skeptical, but that setup sounds like some realm is going to be erased. I suppose the prospect of both Vix and Perdan risking total destruction is what sort-of brought us together.

So yes, on a level I knew this war could be way bigger, and yes I'm intentionally trying to avoid that. And yes, I did not send you a letter (but neither did you send me one  ;) ). If you wish to understand my reasoning, consider every single realm a potential enemy. It's best not to buddy up too much with potential enemies. That totally takes away your chance for a war!

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East Island / Re: Lions vs Tiramorans: the petty war of the South!
« on: April 23, 2015, 06:10:25 PM »
As far as my ingame character goes, he knows nearly nothing. So far all my messages to other rulers have been done from new principles. I suppose it was made easier for me to approach EC because I simply didn't know what was going on. I am also happy that this didn't become a 2v2 or whatever. Perdan (and Vix) is a small realm. In any other war Perdan would not be the main supplier of the force. It would be harder to make our own war, to chose where we fight. Considering that, I am happy it's only Perdan vs Vix. This way both realms are equally matched and not dependent on some bigger realm.

Should I have crossed any plans, I'd apologize. But that wouldn't be the sincerest apology. After all, if realms were gambling on a conflict between Vix and Perdan (and yes, it was a gamble, looking at how it turned out now), that should raise more questions as to how such realms approach the concept of creating war. I guess, though, when I am the ruler of a realm I simply do not try to rely on other realms to create conflict. I take my own realm and put it up front, and that could end bad or incredibly good. But it's a gamble I'll take every single time.

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East Island / Re: Lions vs Tiramorans: the petty war of the South!
« on: April 23, 2015, 04:15:54 PM »
The rest of EC getting involved would completely validate my ingame arguments. Arguments which are not privy to all East Continent rulers, perhaps. Arguments that state that the "old way" of EC is what is killing the island. And by extension the entire game, really. It's better to have several fluid, smaller wars than these large, boring, "let's travel a full week for one battle" wars. In short it's all about emancipating the smaller realms and encouraging dukes to emancipate their own duchy into a proper realm, because, as said before: more realms = more war! That's not necessarily true, I know, but I think it shows some people are at least trying to change things or do things differently.

Should any realm try to get involved manu militari, Vix and Perdan will stand as a stalwart alliance against these old ways! And on a sidenote, Perdan went from 13 nobles to 18 nobles in one week time. Some were characters being unpaused because there was a war, and De-Legro already announced his return a while ago and it was mostly a coincidence... but still.

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East Island / Re: Lions vs Tiramorans: the petty war of the South!
« on: April 23, 2015, 01:11:05 AM »
I have the intention of letting the masses create their own war. I see plenty of duchies that are not yet independent! ;) But yes, closing this war for any other realm was intentional, as it is aimed at hoping the other realms will realize they need to stir things for themselves if war is what they want.

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