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Indirik

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Re: The Marrocidenian war
« Reply #870: December 15, 2012, 04:15:50 AM »
If Mendicant were elected, then he'd derive his power from populism and reduce the crown of the High Sovereign to a mere office filled by interchangeable  self serving politicians looking to advance their careers, serving not out of duty, honour and for the betterment of the realm but because they see it as a career, a way to advance themselves.
So, if the High Sovereign were elected monthly, then he would be a mere interchangeable, self-serving politician like your Knight Hausos, Lord Purser, and Arbiter of Justice. Those filthy career politicians.

You can't have it both ways. You've gone to great lengths to explain to us how your unique Aurvandilian system of elections is free of all that political baggage, and is a monthly accountability and consent process.

The Knight Hausos is more than just a General, it is a very ceremonial position in Aurvandil, second to none in rank and honour and it has very, very select criteria on who can become the Knight Hauso. But at the same time, we hold elections for the Knight Hausos and we hold Allomere to account every month and our nobles grant their consent to his command each month in the elections.

He's elected every month so that you can hold him to account every month, and that you demonstrate your consent to his command. Yet somehow this monthly process does not devalue him into nothing more than a filthy career politician seeking only to advance his career. (I will assume that you will claim the same rigmarole for the other two monthly-elected offices, so no need to argue them separately.)

Now, as far as the High Sovereign goes...

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As for the position of High Sovereign. It is run by rule by consent, whereby the High Sovereign is both answerable to the people, and accountable to their will, and the High Sovereign rules only so long as his people consents to his reign. Thus, ensuring that our ruler is not the most "popular" as you would get with elections, but he is the best and has the loyalty and consent of his people, nothing so trivial as temporary popularity in elections like you see in Republics.

Oh look... the High Sovereign is accountable to the people, has to answer to the people, and rules by consent of the people. Kind of like the general, banker, and judge. Except that with no monthly/quarterly elections, there is no accountability/consent process. Mendicant has never been through the consent and accountability process that the rest of his government is subjected to on a regular basis.

So how do you explain that the monthly consent process does not turn your banker/judge/general into filthy career politicians, but it would with your ruler?

Hence my assertion that your consent and accountability are window dressing and/or double talk. If Mendicant really ruled by an accountability and consent process, he would be held accountable and receiving the consent on a regular basis, just like the rest of his government. But he isn't. He's the standard, garden-variety absolute ruler, just like pretty much every other monarch in the game.
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