"Freeman" means nothing?

[Velax]

When an Advy first starts out, he's an Outlaw and can be executed by any realm at will. But I was under the impression that once an Advy had earned enough Honour/Prestige/Whatever, he becomes a Freeman and can no longer be immediately executed. He must first be banned and then executed. But the dev responses to this bug report would seem to indicate otherwise:

http://bugs.battlemaster.org/view.php?id=7417

So, Freeman can be executed without needing a ban?

[egamma]

I think freeman means he's no longer auto-banned for leaving his starting realm.

[Velax]

No, I have a Freeman Advy, and he's still auto-banned every time he leaves a realm.

[Anaris]

Just flavour, as far as I know.

[Telrunya]

When an Advy first starts out, he's an Outlaw and can be executed by any realm at will. But I was under the impression that once an Advy had earned enough Honour/Prestige/Whatever, he becomes a Freeman and can no longer be immediately executed. He must first be banned and then executed.

That's my recollection as well from the time Adventurers were first added. But that is a very long way back. Checking the Wiki, it seems this was indeed at least claimed to work like so. It was removed in July 2008 though, so it has been like the current situation for a very long time, it appears.

[Velax]

Wow. Before this, Freeman having to be banned first was a hard fact in my mind. Guess you never know as much as you think you do.

[vonGenf]

Just flavour, as far as I know.

Well, a freeman with three recommendations can be recognized as being of Noble rank. An outlaw with three recommendations can be recognized as being from a noble family and unlock access to the warrior class, but technically he's still an outlaw.

[Anaris]

Well, a freeman with three recommendations can be recognized as being of Noble rank. An outlaw with three recommendations can be recognized as being from a noble family and unlock access to the warrior class, but technically he's still an outlaw.

Doesn't make him less a noble.

[vonGenf]

Doesn't make him less a noble.

But it does make him still executable without a ban. And his signature will say Kepler of the Kepler Family (Outlaw).

[Hyral]

Wow. Before this, Freeman having to be banned first was a hard fact in my mind.

Same here. I can't tell you how many newbies have asked me that question...I've become one of those people who spread bad information 

[Foundation]

But it does make him still executable without a ban. And his signature will say Kepler of the Kepler Family (Outlaw).

Eh... I'm fairly sure it does not make him executable without a ban if he changed to warrior class.

[Anaris]

Eh... I'm fairly sure it does not make him executable without a ban if he changed to warrior class.

Outlaw nobles can be executed without a ban.

[Velax]

So was this ever true? Back in 2008 before the Wiki was changed, maybe?

[Anaris]

So was this ever true? Back in 2008 before the Wiki was changed, maybe?

I'm not sure. I once thought it was true, too, and vaguely remembered some evidence to that effect, but at this point I can't say one way or the other (without going through the code history).

[Foundation]

Outlaw nobles can be executed without a ban.

Ah... right.