Your Opinion on Food and the Markets in Dwilight

[Chenier]

Yes, but would you then sell the food to someone else who needs it , considering your realm needs a lot of food.

I don't get it.

[Gustav Kuriga]

D'Hara is light on Rurals, yes? Then that means your realm has to buy more food from imports to make up for the lack of domestic food production. Which in turn means that there likely isn't going to be much leftover for export. What isn't to get?

[Chenier]

D'Hara is light on Rurals, yes? Then that means your realm has to buy more food from imports to make up for the lack of domestic food production. Which in turn means that there likely isn't going to be much leftover for export. What isn't to get?

Paisland now appears to produce a surplus... this is just since a few days ago. I was running a food deficit before then.

If food is sold to a D'Haran region with a surplus, it'd then sell it to a needy region, obviously.

And yes, the odds of it then being exported is quite low. I don't get why this needs saying, or what it has to do with what I said?

[Penchant]

Paisland now appears to produce a surplus... this is just since a few days ago. I was running a food deficit before then.

If food is sold to a D'Haran region with a surplus, it'd then sell it to a needy region, obviously.

And yes, the odds of it then being exported is quite low. I don't get why this needs saying, or what it has to do with what I said?

+1, I am totally confused by this.

[Gustav Kuriga]

It has to do with transferring food from one side of the island to the other, something that D'Hara is well placed to do, but is rather hard to do because of your own food needs.

[Dante Silverfire]

Isn't D'Hara supposed to have food problems? Their city-to-rural ratio has ALWAYS been terrible.

[Gustav Kuriga]

I'm not saying it shouldn't. I'm saying that using them as an example of transferring food from one side of the continent to the other makes no sense.

[Gustav Kuriga]

And to be clear, that explanation was to everybody in general, not to Chenier specifically. Also, finding a buyer for food on Dwilight isn't the problem.  It's finding a fricking seller.

[Penchant]

It has to do with transferring food from one side of the island to the other, something that D'Hara is well placed to do, but is rather hard to do because of your own food needs.

What are you getting at? That somehow D'hara needing food is hurting the food situation of Dwilight because we try to feed ourselves instead of starving ourselves for the betterment of the continent? I don't get your point.

[Chenier]

It has to do with transferring food from one side of the island to the other, something that D'Hara is well placed to do, but is rather hard to do because of your own food needs.

Okay, sure... But when did I ever say I wanted to do that? Two people voted on the polls that they had food and couldn't manage to sell it. Which I find ridiculous, because EVERYONE should know that odds are, you could sell it to D'Hara. Failing to sell food on Dwilight is the result of not trying very hard at all. There are so many buyers that most would do all of the travelling for it themselves.

And to be clear, that explanation was to everybody in general, not to Chenier specifically. Also, finding a buyer for food on Dwilight isn't the problem.  It's finding a fricking seller.

Two people, according to the polls, would disagree. Hence my comment.

[Dante Silverfire]

I'm still convinced that ANY realm on ANY continent that has 4 cities, and 1 stronghold, while only having 3 Rural regions SHOULD have irreparable food problems which make it almost impossible to exist functionally as a realm. On top of that, you have 2 badlands regions in your bunch of 13 regions. So, your realm should pretty much not be possibly able to function. The food situation no matter what the devs code will not make D'Hara a realm which can conceivably exist upon what it has without them doubling in size and not taking a single extra city.

[Gustav Kuriga]

What are you getting at? That somehow D'hara needing food is hurting the food situation of Dwilight because we try to feed ourselves instead of starving ourselves for the betterment of the continent? I don't get your point.

I'm not saying that D'Hara needing food is hurting the food situation on dwilight. I'm trying to explain why getting food from a largely food-positive realm (Morek) to a relatively food-negative realm on the other landmass is so hard to do. It wouldn't matter if it was D'Hara or some other realm, you'd still need to go through a middleman in most cases unless you were able to get a trader out to the other realm.

[Dante Silverfire]

I'm not saying that D'Hara needing food is hurting the food situation on dwilight. I'm trying to explain why getting food from a largely food-positive realm (Morek) to a relatively food-negative realm on the other landmass is so hard to do. It wouldn't matter if it was D'Hara or some other realm, you'd still need to go through a middleman in most cases unless you were able to get a trader out to the other realm.

I agree on this point. However, I don't think that such long food transfers are supposed to be the expected norm on Dwilight.

Luria Nova, Terran, and Aurvandil's region make up makes them much more food position, so why couldn't you just purchase food from them? If the answer is diplomatic relations, then that means the problem isn't in the game mechanics.

[Gustav Kuriga]

Terran hovers just over the unsafe line in regards to food supply. So whether not they'd be willing to sell depends on how efficient they are at feeding their cities.

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Luria Nova, Terran, and Aurvandil's region make up makes them much more food position, so why couldn't you just purchase food from them? If the answer is diplomatic relations, then that means the problem isn't in the game mechanics.

LN hasn't had the ability to safely export food for a few months, after the long winter and then the east pastureland drought. Right now I'm in the process of making sure we have enough food for the winter, but damn do we move food slowly.