Perdan vs Caligus and Company

[Atanamir]

Strange Tidings   (just in)
Those lesser nobles that control the day to day lives of peasants have become unsettled over the last few days. They have received reports of a strange travelling couple, in numbers increasing by the hour.

The woman is reportedly homely, but pleasant and earthy. Those who have seen her report, absurdly, that she glows, and that to have her gaze fall upon you is to feel the warmth of life.

The man is described as nondescript, neither handsome nor ugly, and when he speaks, his voice seems to remind the listener of a close friend or relative. He exudes an aura of infinite patience, and those who met his eyes claim they felt their very soul bend.

Against all reason, they have been sighted in locations all around the realm, seemingly at the same time. Obviously, no reasonable person believes these reports.

The end is near.

[Cren]

Its a planetary annihilation.

[trying]

It's not limited to just EC.

[Cren]

Global extinction... By wizards and witches from SM!

[Eduardo Almighty]

If there is a woman, Erik can deal whit her. 

[T Strike]

Caligus is bleeding regions.

Whooooooo hoooooo!! Finish them off Perdan.

Edit: first post of the new year in the East Island section.

[Bhranthan]

Caligula is bleeding regions.

Whooooooo hoooooo!! Finish them off Perdan.

Edit: first post of the new year in the East Island section.

To bad they dont sign a peace treaty of any kind.
Would be cool to have a natural enemy for Fallangard.
To have a sort of balanced war for over a real life year or two can be quite amazing(Caligus vs Yssria back in the days).

Ah well, if Caligus wont do it, someone else will.
Fallangard would just be getting its revenge on Sirion and then perhaps create its own new enemy from its own lands.


Also cant wait to see Perdan take on Sirion heads up.

[T Strike]

Caligus should just be done with it and survive with Fontan and surrounding regions. Perdan is too strong.

Ya hear that. Ask for peace!

[Indirik]

Caligus did ask for peace. The terms offered by Perdan were deemed unacceptable, so Caligus kept fighting.

[T Strike]

I bet the terms were..., "apologize and say Perdan's your dad (or mother), pay 5000 gold for repairs even though most the fight was fought in enemy territory, and finally, let your realm die due to stavation."

those are the only logical reasons why I would choose death over peace.

[Indirik]

Close.

[Atanamir]

Since I believe it can't hurt any IC things anymore and Caligus obviously prefers to die anyway the first terms (in short form) were these (all information is here OOC of course):

Caligus joins SA and give Fallangard MoI and Leibo (back).
Caligus quits the alliance with Sirion and joins again the southern bloc as equal partner.
Caligus gets Duchy of Krimml and Karbala in the future war with Sirion, and during this it would have given the Duchy of Hamadan to Fallangard to restore that former Kingdom completely.
All in all Caligus would have had in the long run more gold and one more city, along with a stronger alliance.
Terms got rejected since Caligus didn't want to end the alliance with Sirion.

War started. Caligus surrendered with new King, new terms were:

Caligus joins SA and drops the claims on the Fallangard regions (Hamadan had joined by then).
Caligus quits the alliance with Sirion and joins again the southern bloc as equal partner.
Caligus gets Duchy of Karbala in the future war with Sirion.
So, basically same terms, only Krimml got deleted, Caligus would have had lost one City and got another one, but still more gold, and a stronger alliance.
Terms got rejected, new Caligan King said that these terms were designed to kill Caligus (!).

Nothing more to say, everyone can make his own opinion on these terms.
For me personally, only a Sirionite puppet or a realm that has miserable diplomacy skill would reject such offers.
Especially when the current status could have been anticipated easily before.
At least we have a good war and more glory for the allied realms.
Sadly thing is that an old realm must most probably die.

[Zakilevo]

So they were given a chance to become Sirion's ally or Perdan's puppet and they chose the former.

They could well just fight to the end and join Sirion and boost Sirion's noble count by 20. That would beef up the realm with at least 10-15k CS. Couldn't hurt to have 50k mobile CS.

[Eduardo Almighty]

All hail to the "human realms"...  the last of them with honor have to die to give Atanamir' puppets a war to fight.

With some hope they will join Sirion so we can show to the "humans" how stupid they can be following just one man and his pride until the end. Perdan have a new record: the number of weak realms under its rule.

[T Strike]

When Sirion falls we shall see