lol sartanists. i think ow eventually got screwed by sartanist alliance with arcaea,but Cathay got them back bad in the months leading up to the sinking. now that was a war that highlighted this point, one realm beating an alliance triple their size... badly.
Maybe, I wasn't around between mid 2013 and my return one month ago or so. But yeah, Sartanists were quite amusing back then
